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From: Roger Luethi <rl@hellgate.ch>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: riel@surriel.com, torvalds@osdl.org, benh@kernel.crashing.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, andrea@suse.de
Subject: Re: Page aging broken in 2.6
Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 12:58:22 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20031228115822.GB4847@k3.hellgate.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20031227160410.754c5ce1.akpm@osdl.org>

On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 16:04:10 -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > Having all processes blocked is indeed one problem of 2.6 under memory
> > pressure. I don't know what the cause is, though.
> 
> I usually work this sort of thing out by "random sampling".  When
> everything is in steady state, break into kgdb and start looking at task
> backtraces, see where they are all sleeping.

Well, there isn't really a steady state as such. On a loaded system
there are periods during compile benchmarks where the system spends
half the time and more in I/O wait, so some processes do get to run
and do some minimal amount of work.

> If it's in the pagefault handler, go up to do_page_fault() and work out the
> faulting address.  Compare that with /proc/pid/maps to see if it's libc or
> whatever.
> 
> Repeat the above N times until you have a decent feel for what's happening
> in there.  It doesn't take long.

I instrumented the kernel a while ago to log page fault handling
(address, backing file if available) when the system became idle with
all processes blocked. I can resurrect that code which would allow for
larger samples. I'll post results if/when I get around to do it.

Roger

  reply	other threads:[~2003-12-28 11:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-12-26  7:28 Page aging broken in 2.6 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2003-12-26  7:40 ` Andrew Morton
2003-12-26  9:21   ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-12-26  9:58     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2003-12-26 19:44     ` Davide Libenzi
2003-12-26  9:33   ` Russell King
2003-12-26 10:07     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2003-12-26 17:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-26 23:55   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2003-12-27  0:35     ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-27  0:44       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2003-12-27  0:53         ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-27  0:59           ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-27  1:03           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2003-12-27  2:37             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-12-27  5:02               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2003-12-27 10:16               ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-27  2:47           ` Rik van Riel
2003-12-27  3:00             ` Andrew Morton
2003-12-27  3:31               ` Rik van Riel
2003-12-27  3:54               ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-27 16:34                 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-12-27 23:07               ` Roger Luethi
2003-12-27 23:55                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-28 11:23                   ` Roger Luethi
2003-12-28 16:35                     ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-28 17:15                       ` Roger Luethi
2003-12-28  0:04                 ` Andrew Morton
2003-12-28 11:58                   ` Roger Luethi [this message]
2003-12-27  1:41       ` Andrea Arcangeli
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2003-12-26 10:45 Manfred Spraul

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