From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Nick Piggin <piggin@cyberone.com.au>
Cc: Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>,
linux kernel mailing list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] 2.6.0 batch scheduling, HT aware
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 13:49:14 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20031229124914.GA317@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3FEFD18D.3070608@cyberone.com.au>
Hi!
> >>>BTW this is going to be an issue even on normal (non-HT)
> >>>systems. Imagine memory-bound scientific task on CPU0 and nice -20
> >>>memory-bound seti&home at CPU1. Even without hyperthreading, your
> >>>scientific task is going to run at 50% of speed and seti&home is going
> >>>to get second half. Oops.
> >>>
> >>>Something similar can happen with disk, but we are moving out of
> >>>cpu-scheduler arena with that.
> >>>
> >>>[I do not have SMP nearby to demonstrate it, anybody wanting to
> >>>benchmark a bit?]
> >>>
> >>This is definitely the case but there is one huge difference. If you have
> >>2x1Ghz non HT processors then the fastest a single threaded task can run
> >>is at 1Ghz. If you have 1x2Ghz HT processor the fastest a single threaded
> >>task can run is 2Ghz.
> >>
> >
> >Well, gigaherz is not the *only* important thing.
> >
> >On 2x1GHz, 2GB/sec RAM bandwidth, fastest a single threaded task can
> >run is 1GHz, 2GB/sec. If you run two of them, it is 1GHz,
> >*1*GB/sec. So you still have effect similar to hyperthreading. And
> >yes, it can be measured.
> >
>
> Hi Pavel,
> Sure this might be a real problem sometimes, but I don't see the
> CPU scheduler ever handling it unless we want to add a few kitchen
> sinks to its nice lean code as well.
Why is it a problem? If you are handling HT case, anyway, it should be
fairly easy to say "imagine it is HT system, not SMP one", and poof,
problem magically goes away.
Pavel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-12-29 12:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-12-23 0:38 [PATCH] 2.6.0 batch scheduling, HT aware Con Kolivas
2003-12-23 1:11 ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-23 1:24 ` Con Kolivas
2003-12-23 1:36 ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-23 2:42 ` Con Kolivas
2003-12-23 2:57 ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-23 3:15 ` Con Kolivas
2003-12-23 3:16 ` Con Kolivas
2003-12-26 23:03 ` Pavel Machek
2003-12-23 15:51 ` bill davidsen
2003-12-23 22:09 ` Con Kolivas
2003-12-30 0:35 ` bill davidsen
2004-01-02 20:10 ` Bill Davidsen
2003-12-26 22:56 ` Pavel Machek
2003-12-26 23:42 ` Con Kolivas
2003-12-26 23:49 ` Con Kolivas
2003-12-27 11:09 ` Pavel Machek
2003-12-27 11:15 ` Con Kolivas
2003-12-30 0:29 ` bill davidsen
2003-12-29 7:02 ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-29 12:49 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2003-12-27 8:52 ` Mika Penttilä
2003-12-30 0:32 ` bill davidsen
2004-01-02 20:05 ` Bill Davidsen
2004-01-02 20:56 ` Davide Libenzi
2004-01-02 21:10 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-01-02 23:34 ` Davide Libenzi
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-12-23 1:59 Nakajima, Jun
2003-12-23 2:40 ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-23 5:33 Nakajima, Jun
2003-12-23 10:13 ` Nick Piggin
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