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From: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>
To: Andy Isaacson <adi@hexapodia.org>
Cc: Thomas Molina <tmolina@cablespeed.com>,
	Roger Luethi <rl@hellgate.ch>,
	Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: 2.6.0 performance problems
Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003 11:40:51 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20031230194051.GD22443@holomorphy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20031230132145.B32120@hexapodia.org>

On Mon, Dec 29, 2003 at 08:37:53PM -0500, Thomas Molina wrote:
>> Right.  I have 120MB RAM and 256MB swap partition.  That corresponds to 
>> the 85 to 90 percent top says I am spending in iowait.

On Tue, Dec 30, 2003 at 01:21:45PM -0600, Andy Isaacson wrote:
> Yeah, right now BK needs about 140-160MB of working set to do a
> consistency check on the 2.5 tree.  That means you're paging, and it
> sounds like paging sucks on 2.6?
> (Actually, BK is even happier if the kernel can keep all the sfiles in
> cache, so a half-gig is a comfortable amount for working with the
> current 2.5 tree, although 256MB should be enough to avoid paging hell.
> With a full gig, you can keep two full trees in "checkout:get" mode in
> cache, which is nice.)

Well, it's not supposed to suck.

Something to try that affects paging directly would be adjusting
/proc/sys/vm/swappiness to, say, 0 and 100 and trying it at both levels.

More intelligent solutions require more instrumentation to address.

I generally recommend:
(1) logging top(1) running in batch mode
(2) logging vmstat(1)
(3) snapshotting /proc/meminfo
(4) snapshotting /prov/vmstat

I recommend an interval of 5s and logging with things like
top b d 5 > /tmp/top.log 2>&1 &
vmstat 5 > /tmp/vmstat.log 2>&1 &
(while true; do cat /proc/meminfo; sleep 5; done) > /tmp/meminfo.log 2>&1 &
(while true; do cat /proc/vmstat; sleep 5; done) > /tmp/proc_vmstat.log 2>&1 &

Thus far interpretations of information collected this way have been
somewhat lacking. Roger Luethi has identified various points at which
regressions happened over the course of 2.5, but it appears that
information hasn't yet been and still needs to be acted on.

If you could also try to identify points in time when the system has
become less responsive I'd be much obliged.


-- wli

  reply	other threads:[~2003-12-30 19:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-12-29 22:07 2.6.0 performance problems Thomas Molina
2003-12-29 22:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-29 22:58   ` Thomas Molina
2003-12-29 23:04     ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-30 14:14       ` Thomas Molina
2003-12-30 14:39         ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-30 21:14           ` Thomas Molina
2003-12-30 21:23             ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-31  0:50               ` Thomas Molina
2003-12-31  1:01                 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-31  1:34                 ` Andrew Morton
2003-12-31 11:25                   ` bert hubert
2003-12-30 21:35             ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-30 23:46             ` Roger Luethi
2003-12-30 18:20         ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-29 23:14     ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-12-30  5:09       ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-30 10:27         ` Thomas Molina
2003-12-29 23:25     ` David B. Stevens
2003-12-29 23:05   ` Thomas Molina
2003-12-29 23:43     ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-12-30  0:17       ` Thomas Molina
2003-12-30  1:23         ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-12-30  1:27         ` Dave Jones
2003-12-30  1:37           ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-12-30  1:40             ` Dave Jones
2003-12-30  1:49             ` Thomas Molina
2003-12-30  2:03               ` Mike Fedyk
2004-01-03 19:37     ` Bill Davidsen
2003-12-30  1:25 ` Roger Luethi
2003-12-30  1:37   ` Thomas Molina
2003-12-30 19:21     ` Andy Isaacson
2003-12-30 19:40       ` William Lee Irwin III [this message]
2003-12-30 22:24         ` Roger Luethi
2003-12-31  0:33           ` Thomas Molina
2003-12-31 10:17             ` Roger Luethi
2003-12-31 11:21               ` Jens Axboe
2003-12-31 21:03                 ` Roger Luethi
2004-01-01  1:27                   ` Thomas Molina
2004-01-01 10:23                     ` Roger Luethi
2004-01-01 23:09                 ` Roger Luethi
2004-01-02 10:11                   ` Jens Axboe
2003-12-30  1:27 ` Thomas Molina
2003-12-30  2:53   ` Thomas Molina
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-12-30 11:41 Samium Gromoff
2004-01-03 19:54 ` Bill Davidsen
     [not found] ` <200312300855.00741.edt@aei.ca>
2004-01-05 12:33   ` Samium Gromoff
2004-01-05 15:09     ` Ed Tomlinson
2004-01-06  2:23       ` David Lang
2004-01-06 14:44         ` Samium Gromoff

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