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From: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>
To: Thomas Molina <tmolina@cablespeed.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
	Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: 2.6.0 performance problems
Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003 13:35:38 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20031230213538.GH22503@holomorphy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0312301524220.3152@localhost.localdomain>

On Tue, Dec 30, 2003 at 04:14:13PM -0500, Thomas Molina wrote:
> I also get 90+ percent iowait under 2.6 and 0 iowait in 2.4.  I'm not sure 
> how the alleged suckiness of 2.6 paging fits into this.  On this system 
> the execution times are almost the same.  On this machine, in addition to 
> the iowait differences, there are cpu use statistics as reported by top.  
> On 2.4 idle time is 70 percent while on 2.6 the idle time is near zero 
> percent.  I'm not sure what the significance of this is.

2.4 does not report iowait; all iowait is reported as idle time on 2.4.

On Tue, Dec 30, 2003 at 04:14:13PM -0500, Thomas Molina wrote:
> CPU: PIII, speed 648.072 MHz (estimated)
> Counted CPU_CLK_UNHALTED events (clocks processor is not halted) with a unit mask of 0x00 (No unit mask) count 324036
> vma      samples  %           symbol name
> c0115e20 22498    22.6776     mark_offset_tsc
> c0110080 12707    12.8084     mask_and_ack_8259A
> c018eec0 7115      7.1718     ext3_find_entry
> c010ff60 4013      4.0450     enable_8259A_irq
> c0168d50 2650      2.6712     __d_lookup
> c015eb10 1727      1.7408     link_path_walk
> c010afd0 1482      1.4938     irq_entries_start

Well, it looks like Linus said various things along these lines in
various ways before I finished writing this, but in case hearing it a
second time is any reassurance:

There's a slight problem here in that you're io-bound, not cpu-bound,
so profiles won't actually tell us much about remaining overheads.

One thing here is that since turning off all the debugging options got
you down to about a 15% degradation, things aren't actually
looking anywhere near as problematic as before when you had a near 90%
degradation. One possible explanation is that the extensive padding
done by CONFIG_DEBUG_PAGEALLOC created significant memory pressure.

If you'd like further speedups, logging the things I suggested earlier
and trying fiddling with swappiness might help.

In fact, you are down to such a small margin of degradation that the
remaining degradation vs. 2.4 may in fact be due to using oprofile,
which has significant, though not overwhelming overhead.


-- wli

  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-12-30 21:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-12-29 22:07 2.6.0 performance problems Thomas Molina
2003-12-29 22:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-29 22:58   ` Thomas Molina
2003-12-29 23:04     ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-30 14:14       ` Thomas Molina
2003-12-30 14:39         ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-30 21:14           ` Thomas Molina
2003-12-30 21:23             ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-31  0:50               ` Thomas Molina
2003-12-31  1:01                 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-31  1:34                 ` Andrew Morton
2003-12-31 11:25                   ` bert hubert
2003-12-30 21:35             ` William Lee Irwin III [this message]
2003-12-30 23:46             ` Roger Luethi
2003-12-30 18:20         ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-29 23:14     ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-12-30  5:09       ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-30 10:27         ` Thomas Molina
2003-12-29 23:25     ` David B. Stevens
2003-12-29 23:05   ` Thomas Molina
2003-12-29 23:43     ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-12-30  0:17       ` Thomas Molina
2003-12-30  1:23         ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-12-30  1:27         ` Dave Jones
2003-12-30  1:37           ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-12-30  1:40             ` Dave Jones
2003-12-30  1:49             ` Thomas Molina
2003-12-30  2:03               ` Mike Fedyk
2004-01-03 19:37     ` Bill Davidsen
2003-12-30  1:25 ` Roger Luethi
2003-12-30  1:37   ` Thomas Molina
2003-12-30 19:21     ` Andy Isaacson
2003-12-30 19:40       ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-30 22:24         ` Roger Luethi
2003-12-31  0:33           ` Thomas Molina
2003-12-31 10:17             ` Roger Luethi
2003-12-31 11:21               ` Jens Axboe
2003-12-31 21:03                 ` Roger Luethi
2004-01-01  1:27                   ` Thomas Molina
2004-01-01 10:23                     ` Roger Luethi
2004-01-01 23:09                 ` Roger Luethi
2004-01-02 10:11                   ` Jens Axboe
2003-12-30  1:27 ` Thomas Molina
2003-12-30  2:53   ` Thomas Molina
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-12-30 11:41 Samium Gromoff
2004-01-03 19:54 ` Bill Davidsen
     [not found] ` <200312300855.00741.edt@aei.ca>
2004-01-05 12:33   ` Samium Gromoff
2004-01-05 15:09     ` Ed Tomlinson
2004-01-06  2:23       ` David Lang
2004-01-06 14:44         ` Samium Gromoff

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