From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S263537AbUACWSU (ORCPT ); Sat, 3 Jan 2004 17:18:20 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S263792AbUACWSU (ORCPT ); Sat, 3 Jan 2004 17:18:20 -0500 Received: from mail.kroah.org ([65.200.24.183]:1423 "EHLO perch.kroah.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S264272AbUACWQO (ORCPT ); Sat, 3 Jan 2004 17:16:14 -0500 Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 14:16:04 -0800 From: Greg KH To: Witukind Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-hotplug-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: udev and devfs - The final word Message-ID: <20040103221604.GJ11061@kroah.com> References: <20031231002942.GB2875@kroah.com> <20040101011855.GA13628@hh.idb.hist.no> <20040103055938.GD5306@kroah.com> <20040103140140.3b848e9f.witukind@nsbm.kicks-ass.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040103140140.3b848e9f.witukind@nsbm.kicks-ass.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sat, Jan 03, 2004 at 02:01:40PM +0100, Witukind wrote: > On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 21:59:38 -0800 > Greg KH wrote: > > > On Thu, Jan 01, 2004 at 02:18:55AM +0100, Helge Hafting wrote: > > > On Tue, Dec 30, 2003 at 04:29:42PM -0800, Greg KH wrote: > > > > > > > > 2) We are (well, were) running out of major and minor numbers for > > > > devices. > > > > > > devfs tried to fix this one by _getting rid_ of those numbers. > > > Seriously - what are they needed for? > > > > But devfs failed in this. The devfs kernel interface still requires a > > major/minor number to create device nodes. > > Let's be more precise and not say that "devfs" failed this, but that the > current implementation of devfs failed this. Um, that's all we have to go by right now, sorry. > If devfs works good on FreeBSD, it probably means that the current > devfs for Linux is badly designed, not that the idea of devfs is bad. I have no idea how FreeBSD implemented devfs. If you know how FreeBSD implemented devfs, and how it solves all of the problems that I detailed in my original posting, I would be interested. thanks, greg k-h