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From: Andi Kleen <ak@colin2.muc.de>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@muc.de>, David Hinds <dhinds@sonic.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: PCI memory allocation bug with CONFIG_HIGHMEM
Date: 6 Jan 2004 05:05:46 +0100
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 05:05:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040106040546.GA77287@colin2.muc.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0401051937510.2653@home.osdl.org>

On Mon, Jan 05, 2004 at 07:40:11PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> 
> On Tue, 6 Jan 2004, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > 
> > IMHO the only reliable way to get physical bus space for mappings
> > is to allocate some memory and map the mapping over that.
> 
> You literally can't do that: the RAM addresses are decoded by the 
> northbridge before they ever hit the PCI bus, so it's impossible to "map 
> over" RAM in general. 

Are you sure? I have a doc from AMD somewhere on the memory ordering
on K8 and it gives this order: (highest to lowest) 

AGP aperture, TSEG, ASEG, IORR, Fixed MTRR, TOP_MEM

Note that TOP_MEM comes last, IORR comes earlier.  It would require
setting an IORR though, which would be admittedly a bit nasty
(there are not that many of them). As long as it is only a single
area it should be possible though, we already have some code to change
IORRs in the AGP driver.   That would be admittedly AMD specific,
but I suspect Intel has a similar mechanism.

I have successfully mapped the AGP aperture
over RAM and also seen it shadowing PCI mappings. I admit I haven't tried
it with PCI mappings.  

But can you suggest a reliable way to find a memory hole in e820?
I haven't one figured out and AFAIK there isn't even any guarantee 
by the BIOS that there is any. e.g. Opteron BIOS tend to use all
the precious space < 4GB up for existing mappings and I would expect
other i386 BIOS to behave the same.

-Andi

  reply	other threads:[~2004-01-06  4:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1aJdi-7TH-25@gated-at.bofh.it>
2004-01-06  3:32 ` PCI memory allocation bug with CONFIG_HIGHMEM Andi Kleen
2004-01-06  3:40   ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-06  4:05     ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2004-01-06  5:04       ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-06  8:12         ` Andi Kleen
2004-01-06  9:11           ` Mika Penttilä
2004-01-06  9:44             ` Andi Kleen
2004-01-06 10:16               ` Mika Penttilä
2004-01-06 10:49                 ` Andi Kleen
2004-01-06 15:27               ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-06 15:37                 ` Andi Kleen
2004-01-06 15:48                   ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-06 22:29                     ` Adam Belay
2004-01-07  4:06                       ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-07  5:02                         ` Andi Kleen
2004-01-07  5:55                           ` Dave Jones
2004-01-07  6:06                             ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-07  6:08                               ` Dave Jones
2004-01-07  6:45                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-07  6:51                             ` Andi Kleen
2004-01-07  2:43                               ` Adam Belay
2004-01-07  8:32                       ` Helge Hafting
2004-01-06 22:45                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2004-01-07  0:06                     ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-07  4:58                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2004-01-07  5:32                         ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-07 15:53                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2004-01-07 16:32                             ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-07 17:32                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2004-01-08 19:34                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2004-01-07  9:31                         ` Russell King
2004-01-07 15:06                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2004-01-07 20:29                             ` Russell King
2004-01-06 22:56     ` Eric W. Biederman
2004-01-05 20:07 David Hinds
2004-01-05 23:00 ` Russell King
2004-01-05 23:45   ` David Hinds
2004-01-06  0:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-06  0:44   ` David Hinds
2004-01-06  1:11     ` Linus Torvalds
2004-01-06  1:41       ` Linus Torvalds

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