From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Guennadi Liakhovetski <g.liakhovetski@gmx.de>,
Helge Hafting <helgehaf@aitel.hist.no>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 2.6.0 NFS-server low to 0 performance
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 12:38:11 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040115113810.GA9265@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040111135309.F1931@flint.arm.linux.org.uk>
Hi!
> > > The only my doubt was - yes, you upgrade the __server__, so, you look in
> > > Changes, upgrade all necessary stuff, or just upgrade blindly (as does
> > > happen sometimes, I believe) a distribution - and the server works, fine.
> > > What I find non-obvious, is that on updating the server you have to
> > > re-configure __clients__, see? Just think about a network somewhere in a
> >
> > If you upgrade the server and read "Changes", then a note in changes might
> > say that "you need to configure carefully or some clients could get in trouble."
> > (If the current "Changes" don't have that - post a documentation patch.)
>
> [This is more to Guennadi than Helge]
>
> I don't see why such a patch to "Changes" should be necessary. The
> problem is most definitely with the client hardware, and not the
> server software.
>
> The crux of this problem comes down to the SMC91C111 having only a
> small on-board packet buffer, which is capable of storing only about
> 4 packets (both TX and RX). This means that if you receive 8 packets
> with high enough interrupt latency, you _will_ drop some of those
> packets.
I believe problem is in software... basically UDP is broken. I don't
think you can call hw broken just because small RX ring. RX ring has
to have some fixed size, and if the OS is not fast enough, well, some
packets are going on the floor.
I believe SW should deal with RX ring being just one packet big, and
believe that UDP is to blame...
Pavel
--
When do you have a heart between your knees?
[Johanka's followup: and *two* hearts?]
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-01-15 11:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-01-06 0:46 2.6.0 NFS-server low to 0 performance Guennadi Liakhovetski
2004-01-07 13:36 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2004-01-07 22:30 ` bill davidsen
2004-01-08 12:48 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2004-01-07 17:49 ` Mike Fedyk
2004-01-07 18:13 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2004-01-07 18:19 ` Mike Fedyk
2004-01-07 19:06 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2004-01-09 10:08 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2004-01-09 18:00 ` Mike Fedyk
2004-01-10 0:38 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2004-01-10 1:38 ` Mike Fedyk
2004-01-10 11:10 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2004-01-10 14:30 ` Trond Myklebust
2004-01-10 20:04 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2004-01-10 21:57 ` Trond Myklebust
2004-01-10 22:14 ` Mike Fedyk
2004-01-10 22:47 ` Trond Myklebust
2004-01-10 22:42 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2004-01-10 22:51 ` Jesper Juhl
2004-01-11 13:18 ` Helge Hafting
2004-01-11 13:53 ` Russell King
2004-01-11 14:24 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2004-01-15 11:38 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2004-01-12 5:06 ` Bill Davidsen
2004-01-12 14:27 ` Trond Myklebust
2004-01-12 15:12 ` Trond Myklebust
2004-01-16 5:44 ` Mike Fedyk
2004-01-16 6:05 ` Trond Myklebust
2004-01-16 6:53 ` Mike Fedyk
2004-01-10 22:34 ` Mike Fedyk
2004-01-10 22:52 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2004-01-10 22:57 ` Mike Fedyk
2004-01-10 23:00 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2004-01-08 21:42 ` Pavel Machek
2004-01-12 23:18 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2004-01-12 23:28 ` Jesper Juhl
2004-01-13 0:39 ` Pavel Machek
2004-01-14 3:00 ` Daniel Roesen
2004-01-14 18:16 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2004-01-13 1:55 ` Slow NFS performance over wireless! Roman Gaufman
2004-01-13 2:15 ` Trond Myklebust
2004-01-13 20:25 ` Joshua M. Thompson
2004-01-13 20:45 ` Trond Myklebust
2004-01-15 1:12 ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
[not found] ` <20040115013312.GO1594@srv-lnx2600.matchmail.com>
2004-01-15 2:04 ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2004-01-15 2:35 ` Trond Myklebust
2004-01-15 19:00 ` Slowwwwwwwwwwww NFS read performance Trond Myklebust
2004-01-15 19:53 ` Ram Pai
2004-01-15 20:16 ` Trond Myklebust
2004-01-15 20:54 ` Trond Myklebust
2004-01-18 6:04 ` Greg Fitzgerald
2004-01-18 17:55 ` Mike Fedyk
2004-01-16 0:52 ` Slow NFS performance [was: over wireless!] Miquel van Smoorenburg
[not found] <1cpDr-5az-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <1csrv-Er-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
2004-01-10 16:08 ` 2.6.0 NFS-server low to 0 performance Andi Kleen
2004-01-10 16:19 ` Trond Myklebust
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-01-12 14:40 James Pearson
2004-01-12 15:22 ` Trond Myklebust
2004-01-13 11:08 ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
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