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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: BIOS Flash changes PowerNOW frequencies?
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 21:48:48 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040115204847.GH467@openzaurus.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040114050818.GC23845@redhat.com>

Hi!

>  > is "Why?". If the CPU and chipset support both sets of frequencies with
>  > different BIOS, wouldn't the _real_ set of supported frequencies be the union
>  > of the 2?
> 
> In reality, yes.
> However BIOS programmers have a different perception of reality to the rest of us.
> The spec for PST tables allows for up to 256 FID/VID pairs, yet everyone just
> seems to offer 5-6 as maximum. I guess they figured no-one needed the granularity
> of the full range.

Imagine tests needed to check that hw is stable at
each supported frequency. At that point I understand
they only support 6 of them...

> Something that has been planned for quite a while has been a means of overriding
> the tables using sysfs. I haven't had time to implement this, and no-one else
> has found the time/motivation to do so either it seems.
>

That would be nice. Both notebooks that I have do have broken
PST's... Ouch.
 
> Something I was tempted to do at one point (due to the number of broken PST's out
> there) was to offer a 'ignore_pst' module parameter, which exposed the full table
> to sysfs. The only problem being some VRMs can't handle certain frequencies at
> certain voltages whilst some can, making it hard to find a set of 'safe' values
> for each frequency.
> 
> How to find out which one VRM can handle frequency X at voltage Y ?
> Through the PST tables.

Well, you can try it, if it dies, remembed "bad combination"
else compile kernel, if it works, it probably is usable
combination... at least thats how I did it by hand on
k7 notebook.
				Pavel
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  reply	other threads:[~2004-01-15 21:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-01-11 17:56 BIOS Flash changes PowerNOW frequencies? Mark W. Alexander
2004-01-14  5:08 ` Dave Jones
2004-01-15 20:48   ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2004-01-15 12:03 ` Pavel Machek
2004-01-15 13:32   ` Mark W. Alexander
2004-01-15 21:04     ` Pavel Machek
2004-01-15 21:24     ` Pavel Machek

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