From: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@myrealbox.com>
Cc: Nick Piggin <piggin@cyberone.com.au>,
Rusty Russell <rusty@au1.ibm.com>,
vatsa@in.ibm.com, lhcs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: CPU Hotplug: Hotplug Script And SIGPWR
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 15:33:16 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040121043608.62C342C0C4@lists.samba.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 20 Jan 2004 09:49:39 -0800." <400D6A33.6020108@myrealbox.com>
In message <400D6A33.6020108@myrealbox.com> you write:
> (At some point, linux may want to suspend itself after inactivity. Both
> RT tasks and some interactive tasks may want to supress that.) Why not
> add a SIGPM signal, which is only sent if handles, and which indicates
> that PM event is happening. Give usermode some method of responding to
> it (e.g. handler returns a value, or a new syscall), and let
> /sbin/hotplug handle events for tasks that either ignore the signal or
> responded that they were uninterested. This seems be close to optimal
> for every case I can think of.
This was my original idea too. AIX has this, but in reality the
control ends up all in userspace for non-trivial uses. ie. some
"workload manager" program consults with all the interested parties
*before* telling the kernel what to do.
The async and non-consultive nature of hotplug is policy for good
reason. Giving someone 30 seconds to respond to a signal can always
fail, and making it configurable is just a bandaid.
I have nothing against SIGRECONFIG (think memory hotplug), but the AIX
guys indicated from their experience it seems that non-toy users don't
use it anyway (they have a hotplug-style script system, too).
So: trying to cover every corner case isn't worthwhile in practice, it
seems. I like the signal for RC5 challenge etc, but that's about it.
Cheers,
Rusty.
--
Anyone who quotes me in their sig is an idiot. -- Rusty Russell.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-01-21 4:38 UTC|newest]
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[not found] ` <fa.frjqvfo.170g8hq@ifi.uio.no>
2004-01-20 17:49 ` CPU Hotplug: Hotplug Script And SIGPWR Andy Lutomirski
2004-01-21 4:33 ` Rusty Russell [this message]
[not found] <20040116174446.A2820@in.ibm.com>
2004-01-20 5:44 ` Rusty Russell
2004-01-20 6:33 ` Tim Hockin
2004-01-20 6:43 ` Nick Piggin
2004-01-20 6:52 ` Tim Hockin
2004-01-20 7:11 ` Nick Piggin
2004-01-20 7:30 ` Tim Hockin
2004-01-20 7:45 ` Nick Piggin
2004-01-20 7:54 ` Tim Hockin
2004-01-20 8:14 ` Nick Piggin
2004-01-20 8:29 ` Tim Hockin
2004-01-20 8:37 ` Nick Piggin
2004-01-20 8:43 ` Tim Hockin
2004-01-21 4:06 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2004-01-21 4:14 ` Nick Piggin
2004-01-21 5:09 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2004-01-21 7:08 ` Tim Hockin
2004-01-21 15:07 ` Matthias Urlichs
2004-01-22 5:29 ` Rusty Russell
2004-01-21 7:09 ` Tim Hockin
2004-01-21 7:31 ` Nick Piggin
2004-01-21 7:42 ` Tim Hockin
2004-01-21 8:11 ` Rusty Russell
2004-01-21 5:07 ` Rusty Russell
2004-01-20 8:41 ` Stefan Smietanowski
2004-01-20 8:49 ` Nick Piggin
2004-01-20 9:12 ` Tim Hockin
2004-01-21 0:00 ` Rusty Russell
2004-01-20 23:51 ` Rusty Russell
2004-01-20 7:45 ` Rusty Russell
2004-01-20 8:37 ` Tim Hockin
2004-01-20 9:29 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2004-01-21 0:12 ` Rusty Russell
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