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From: Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>
To: Jos Hulzink <josh@stack.nl>,
	linux kernel mailing list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] 2.6.1 Hyperthread smart "nice"
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 21:36:53 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200401292136.53682.kernel@kolivas.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200401292128.20650.kernel@kolivas.org>

On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 21:28, Con Kolivas wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 20:39, Jos Hulzink wrote:
> > On Thursday 29 Jan 2004 09:17, Con Kolivas wrote:
> > > Hi all
> > >
> > > This patch (together with the ht base patch) will not allow a priority
> > >
> > > >10 difference to run concurrently on both siblings, instead putting
> > > > the
> > >
> > > low priority one to sleep. Overall if you run concurrent nice 0 and
> > > nice 20 tasks with this patch your cpu throughput will drop during
> > > heavy periods by up to 10% (the hyperthread benefit), but your nice 0
> > > task will run about 90% faster. It has no effect if you don't run any
> > > tasks at different "nice" levels. It does not modify real time tasks or
> > > kernel threads, and will allow niced tasks to run while a high priority
> > > kernel thread is running on the sibling cpu.
> >
> > If I read you correctly, if one thread has nothing else to do but the
> > nice 0 task, the nice 20 task will never be scheduled at all ? Sounds
> > like not the perfect solution to me...
>
> Wrong.. there is the matter of the other runqueue in smp mode :)

Oops I should have been clearer than that. Shouldn't email in a hurry. Yes the 
solution is not the right one, yes you can get longer periods of starvation 
compared with UP mode, but if the constant bouncing and balancing of tasks 
puts the low priority task on the same runqueue as the high priority one it 
will get scheduled. This is why Nick's idea of unbalancing runqueues for 
priority difference makes sense. However pushing and pulling tasks very 
frequently may be expensive so it's hard to know how well that will work.

Con


  reply	other threads:[~2004-01-29 10:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-01-29  8:17 [PATCH] 2.6.1 Hyperthread smart "nice" Con Kolivas
2004-01-29  9:39 ` Jos Hulzink
2004-01-29 10:28   ` Con Kolivas
2004-01-29 10:36     ` Con Kolivas [this message]
2004-02-02  9:27   ` [PATCH] 2.6.1 Hyperthread smart "nice" 2 Con Kolivas
2004-02-02 10:31     ` Ingo Molnar
2004-02-03 10:52       ` Con Kolivas
2004-02-03 10:58         ` Ingo Molnar
2004-02-03 11:07           ` Con Kolivas
2004-02-03 11:12             ` Ingo Molnar
2004-02-03 11:14               ` Con Kolivas
2004-02-03 11:47                 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-02-03 11:19             ` Nick Piggin
2004-02-03 22:59           ` Andrew Morton

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