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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Miklos Szeredi <Miklos.Szeredi@eth.ericsson.se>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Userspace filesystems (WAS: Encrypted Filesystem)
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 16:19:53 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040202151953.GA262@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200402020942.i129gHf15172@duna48.eth.ericsson.se>

Hi!

> > >    app wants to read data from a file ->
> > >    userspace application requires memory allocation to provide this data ->
> > >    VM tries to write out dirty data associated with the Coda mountpoint ==
> > >    deadlock
> > 
> > How do you solve this one?
> 
> 1) In FUSE normal writes go through the cache, so no dirty pages are
>    created.  The only possibility to create dirty pages is with shared
>    writable mapping, and this is rare
> 
> 2) Userspace filesystem app can be multithreaded, so probably write
>    can be satisfied even if read is pending.
> 
> 3) The 2.6 kernel provides asynchronous page writeback, so even if a
>    writeback is blocking forever the VM will continue to try to free
>    up memory.
> 
> 4) If no memory can be freed, then the allocation will fail, so the
>    read will fail: no deadlock.

Transient real failure looks pretty ugly. I'd not expect
read(/etc/passwd) to return -ENOMEM, and read(/#ftp:somewhere/passwd)
should be the same, but as this is basically "can not happen"... I
guess that's enough.
								Pavel

-- 
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  reply	other threads:[~2004-02-02 15:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-01-26 17:46 Encrypted Filesystem Michael A Halcrow
2004-01-26 19:06 ` Mark Borgerding
2004-01-26 21:04   ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2004-01-30 17:01     ` Pavel Machek
2004-01-27  0:06 ` jw schultz
2004-01-27  0:43 ` Adam Sampson
2004-01-27  1:42   ` Andy Isaacson
2004-01-27 22:01   ` Jan Harkes
2004-01-27 22:16     ` Jean-Luc Cooke
2004-01-28 13:50   ` Userspace filesystems (WAS: Encrypted Filesystem) Miklos Szeredi
2004-01-30 17:06     ` Pavel Machek
2004-02-02  9:42       ` Miklos Szeredi
2004-02-02 15:19         ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2004-02-02 15:36           ` Nikita Danilov

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