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From: "Amit S. Kale" <amitkale@emsyssoft.com>
To: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: pavel@ucw.cz, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"La Monte H.P. Yarroll" <piggy@timesys.com>,
	trini@kernel.crashing.org, George Anzinger <george@mvista.com>
Subject: Re: kgdb support in vanilla 2.6.2
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 23:20:04 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200402052320.04393.amitkale@emsyssoft.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <p73n07ykyop.fsf@verdi.suse.de>

On Thursday 05 Feb 2004 8:41 am, Andi Kleen wrote:
> Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org> writes:
> > need to take a look at such things and really convice ourselves that
> > they're worthwhile.  Personally, I'd only be interested in the basic
> > stub.
>
> What I found always extremly ugly in the i386 stub was that it uses
> magic globals to talk to the page fault handler. For the x86-64
> version I replaced that by just using __get/__put_user in the memory
> accesses, which is much cleaner. I would suggest doing that for i386
> too.

May be I am missing something obvious. When debugging a page fault handler if 
kgdb accesses an swapped-out user page doesn't it deadlock when trying to 
hold mm semaphore?

I use the global to let page fault handler that this access is from kgdb so 
don't try to load any pages, report an error instead.

>
> Also what's also ugly in i386 is that it uses ugly hooks in
> traps.c/fault.c. On x86-64 I instead added generic notifiers (see
> include/asm-x86_64/die.h and notify_die in arch/x86_64/kernel/traps.c)
> where both kdb and kgdb and possibly dprobes and other debuggers can hook
> in without conflicting patches for the same files from everybody.
> I would strongly suggest to adopt such a generic framework for i386 too
> to clean up the core kernel <-> debugger interaction. As soon as this
> frame work is in just dropping the stub is is very clean.

I liked these.  Never got time to integrate them.

>
> The x86-64 version should be pretty simple to port to i386 if someone
> is interested ...
>
> Another issue is that for modern gdb and frame pointer less debugging
> with dwarf2 we really need dwarf2 cfi annotation on i386 too. It is
> not as ugly as it used to be because newer binutils have much nicer to
> use .cfi_* mnemonics to generate the dwarf2 unwind table. x86-64 uses
> that now thanks to Jim Houston. It only works with uptodate binutils,
> but I guess that's a reasonable requirement. It's a bit intrusive in
> entry.S, but not too bad compared to the old way (take a look at
> arch/i386/kernel/vsyscall-sysenter.S to see how the old way looks
> like) Having the dwarf2 unwind information in the kernel vmlinux is
> useful even independent of kgdb for other tools that look at crash
> dumps.

George has coded cfi directives i386 too. He can use them to backtrace past 
irqs stack.
-- 
Amit Kale
EmSysSoft (http://www.emsyssoft.com)
KGDB: Linux Kernel Source Level Debugger (http://kgdb.sourceforge.net)


  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-02-05 17:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <20040204155452.4 9c1eba8.akpm@osdl.org.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found] ` <20040204152137.500e8319.akpm@osdl.org.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]   ` <402182B8.7030900@timesys.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]     ` <20040204155452.49c1eba8.akpm@osdl.org.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2004-02-05  3:11       ` kgdb support in vanilla 2.6.2 Andi Kleen
2004-02-05 12:16         ` Pavel Machek
2004-02-05 17:50         ` Amit S. Kale [this message]
2004-02-06  2:20           ` Andi Kleen
2004-02-06 11:58             ` Amit S. Kale
2004-02-06 12:16               ` Andi Kleen
2004-02-06 13:05                 ` Amit S. Kale
2004-02-06 13:24                   ` Andi Kleen
2004-02-06 13:44                     ` Amit S. Kale
2004-02-28  0:05                       ` George Anzinger
2004-03-01  9:38                         ` Amit S. Kale
2004-03-02 21:10                           ` George Anzinger
2004-03-02 21:27                             ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-02 23:52                               ` George Anzinger
2004-03-03  5:08                                 ` Amit S. Kale
2004-03-03 16:06                                   ` Tom Rini
2004-03-04  0:42                                   ` George Anzinger
2004-03-03 10:05                               ` Andi Kleen
2004-03-04  0:43                                 ` George Anzinger
2004-03-04  0:50                                   ` Andi Kleen
2004-03-04  5:06                                     ` Amit S. Kale
2004-03-04  5:18                                       ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-04  5:29                                         ` Amit S. Kale
2004-03-04  5:44                                           ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-04 20:54                                           ` George Anzinger
2004-03-04 21:03                                             ` Tom Rini
2004-03-04 23:15                                               ` George Anzinger
2004-03-04 13:01                                         ` Andi Kleen
2004-02-11 14:52                     ` Amit S. Kale
2004-02-10 21:56             ` George Anzinger
2004-02-13 19:42               ` Andi Kleen
2004-02-12  1:34                 ` George Anzinger
2004-02-12  8:33                   ` Andi Kleen
2004-02-27 21:09               ` Piet Delaney
2004-02-27 21:58                 ` George Anzinger
2004-02-27 23:33                 ` Pavel Machek
2004-02-04 23:01 Pavel Machek
2004-02-04 23:21 ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-04 23:24   ` Pavel Machek
2004-02-04 23:45     ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-04 23:55     ` Tom Rini
2004-02-05  0:16       ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-05  0:23         ` Tom Rini
2004-02-20  0:15         ` George Anzinger
2004-02-04 23:39   ` La Monte H.P. Yarroll
2004-02-04 23:54     ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-05  1:19       ` Pavel Machek
2004-02-20  0:24       ` George Anzinger
2004-02-05  0:39     ` Pavel Machek
2004-02-04 23:52 ` Tom Rini
2004-02-05  0:17   ` Paul Mundt
2004-02-05  0:32     ` Tom Rini

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