From: "Amit S. Kale" <amitkale@emsyssoft.com>
To: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
Cc: akpm@osdl.org, pavel@ucw.cz, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
piggy@timesys.com, trini@kernel.crashing.org, george@mvista.com
Subject: Re: kgdb support in vanilla 2.6.2
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 19:14:38 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200402061914.38826.amitkale@emsyssoft.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040206142441.23def5f3.ak@suse.de>
On Friday 06 Feb 2004 6:54 pm, Andi Kleen wrote:
> On Fri, 6 Feb 2004 18:35:16 +0530
>
> "Amit S. Kale" <amitkale@emsyssoft.com> wrote:
> > On Friday 06 Feb 2004 5:46 pm, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > > On Fri, 6 Feb 2004 17:28:36 +0530
> > >
> > > "Amit S. Kale" <amitkale@emsyssoft.com> wrote:
> > > > On Friday 06 Feb 2004 7:50 am, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, 5 Feb 2004 23:20:04 +0530
> > > > >
> > > > > "Amit S. Kale" <amitkale@emsyssoft.com> wrote:
> > > > > > On Thursday 05 Feb 2004 8:41 am, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > > > > > > Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org> writes:
> > > > > > > > need to take a look at such things and really convice
> > > > > > > > ourselves that they're worthwhile. Personally, I'd only be
> > > > > > > > interested in the basic stub.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What I found always extremly ugly in the i386 stub was that it
> > > > > > > uses magic globals to talk to the page fault handler. For the
> > > > > > > x86-64 version I replaced that by just using __get/__put_user
> > > > > > > in the memory accesses, which is much cleaner. I would suggest
> > > > > > > doing that for i386 too.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > May be I am missing something obvious. When debugging a page
> > > > > > fault handler if kgdb accesses an swapped-out user page doesn't
> > > > > > it deadlock when trying to hold mm semaphore?
> > > > >
> > > > > Modern i386 kernels don't grab the mm semaphore when the access is
> > > > > >= TASK_SIZE and the access came from kernel space (actually I see
> > > > > x86-64 still does, but that's a bug, will fix). You could only see
> > > > > a deadlock when using user addresses and you already hold the mm
> > > > > semaphore for writing (normal read lock is ok). Just don't do that.
> > > >
> > > > OK. It don't deadlock when kgdb accesses kernel addresses.
> > > >
> > > > When a user space address is accessed through kgdb, won't the kernel
> > > > attempt to fault in the user page? We don't want that to happen
> > > > inside kgdb.
> > >
> > > Yes, it will. But I don't think it's a bad thing. If the users doesn't
> > > want that they should not follow user addresses. After all kgdb is for
> > > people who know what they are doing.
> >
> > Let kgdb refuse to access any addresses below TASK_SIZE. That's better
> > than accidentally typing something and getting lost.
>
> That's fine. But can you perhaps add a magic command that enables it again?
Yes. This sounds good.
-Amit
> I could imagine in a few cases it will be useful because there may be pages
> mapped into the user address space that are not in the direct mapping
> (that's mainly on 32bit of course, on amd64 you can always access all
> memory using mappings >TASK_SIZE)
>
> -Andi
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2004-02-05 3:11 ` kgdb support in vanilla 2.6.2 Andi Kleen
2004-02-05 12:16 ` Pavel Machek
2004-02-05 17:50 ` Amit S. Kale
2004-02-06 2:20 ` Andi Kleen
2004-02-06 11:58 ` Amit S. Kale
2004-02-06 12:16 ` Andi Kleen
2004-02-06 13:05 ` Amit S. Kale
2004-02-06 13:24 ` Andi Kleen
2004-02-06 13:44 ` Amit S. Kale [this message]
2004-02-28 0:05 ` George Anzinger
2004-03-01 9:38 ` Amit S. Kale
2004-03-02 21:10 ` George Anzinger
2004-03-02 21:27 ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-02 23:52 ` George Anzinger
2004-03-03 5:08 ` Amit S. Kale
2004-03-03 16:06 ` Tom Rini
2004-03-04 0:42 ` George Anzinger
2004-03-03 10:05 ` Andi Kleen
2004-03-04 0:43 ` George Anzinger
2004-03-04 0:50 ` Andi Kleen
2004-03-04 5:06 ` Amit S. Kale
2004-03-04 5:18 ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-04 5:29 ` Amit S. Kale
2004-03-04 5:44 ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-04 20:54 ` George Anzinger
2004-03-04 21:03 ` Tom Rini
2004-03-04 23:15 ` George Anzinger
2004-03-04 13:01 ` Andi Kleen
2004-02-11 14:52 ` Amit S. Kale
2004-02-10 21:56 ` George Anzinger
2004-02-13 19:42 ` Andi Kleen
2004-02-12 1:34 ` George Anzinger
2004-02-12 8:33 ` Andi Kleen
2004-02-27 21:09 ` Piet Delaney
2004-02-27 21:58 ` George Anzinger
2004-02-27 23:33 ` Pavel Machek
2004-02-04 23:01 Pavel Machek
2004-02-04 23:21 ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-04 23:24 ` Pavel Machek
2004-02-04 23:45 ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-04 23:55 ` Tom Rini
2004-02-05 0:16 ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-05 0:23 ` Tom Rini
2004-02-20 0:15 ` George Anzinger
2004-02-04 23:39 ` La Monte H.P. Yarroll
2004-02-04 23:54 ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-05 1:19 ` Pavel Machek
2004-02-20 0:24 ` George Anzinger
2004-02-05 0:39 ` Pavel Machek
2004-02-04 23:52 ` Tom Rini
2004-02-05 0:17 ` Paul Mundt
2004-02-05 0:32 ` Tom Rini
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