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From: Mike Bell <kernel@mikebell.org>
To: Chris Friesen <cfriesen@nortelnetworks.com>
Cc: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: devfs vs udev, thoughts from a devfs user
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 17:20:48 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040211012047.GA4915@tinyvaio.nome.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <40293508.1040803@nortelnetworks.com>

On Tue, Feb 10, 2004 at 02:46:16PM -0500, Chris Friesen wrote:
> I believe this is a misconception.
> 
> Udev uses standard rules by default.  If the end-user (or their distro) 
> wants to add additional rules or override these rules, they can do that.

Right, but why is "override" better than "in addition to" in this case?
With the in addition case, any linux system at least has the
predictable, kernel-generated name, and any app can rely on that name
being the same on. If the user doesn't like it, he/she is free to make
another one, but the old one's still there.

udev's additional flexibility over devfs with regard to naming seems to
boil down to that, udev is instead of, devfs is in addition to. Why is
instead of better? 

There's space savings, but a simpler devfs might actually be more RAM
efficient than using the generic tmpfs with device nodes on it. And
there's the cleanliness of not having unused device nodes around, but
those unused device nodes guarantee that no matter what crazy naming
scheme you personally like for your devices, they're still findable the
old fashioned way too.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-02-11  1:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-02-10 11:34 devfs vs udev, thoughts from a devfs user Mike Bell
2004-02-10 13:20 ` Helge Hafting
2004-02-10 14:46   ` Mike Bell
2004-02-10 17:02     ` Mark Mielke
     [not found]   ` <20040210160011.GJ4421@tinyvaio.nome.ca>
2004-02-11  9:44     ` Helge Hafting
2004-02-11 20:05       ` Theodore Ts'o
2004-02-10 13:32 ` Ian Kent
2004-02-10 14:00   ` Mike Bell
2004-02-10 17:01 ` Greg KH
2004-02-10 17:13   ` Mike Bell
2004-02-10 17:25     ` Greg KH
2004-02-10 17:46       ` Mike Bell
2004-02-10 18:12         ` Greg KH
2004-02-10 18:29           ` Mike Bell
2004-02-10 22:19             ` Matthew Reppert
2004-02-11  1:10               ` Mike Bell
2004-02-11 10:05               ` Helge Hafting
2004-02-13 21:19             ` Greg KH
2004-02-14  8:51               ` Mike Bell
2004-02-14  9:13                 ` Christian Borntraeger
2004-02-14 11:42                   ` Helge Hafting
2004-02-14 16:54                 ` Greg KH
2004-02-14 17:44                   ` Alex Goddard
2004-02-15  8:16                     ` Andrew Walrond
2004-02-19  9:47                   ` Mike Bell
2004-02-19 19:43                     ` Greg KH
2004-02-27  0:02                       ` Mike Bell
2004-02-10 19:10       ` Shawn
2004-02-10 17:52     ` Chris Friesen
2004-02-10 19:24       ` Mike Bell
2004-02-10 19:46         ` Chris Friesen
2004-02-10 19:58           ` Tomasz Torcz
2004-02-10 20:11           ` Kevin P. Fleming
2004-02-10 20:39             ` Bill Rugolsky Jr.
2004-02-11  1:16               ` Greg KH
2004-02-11  1:41                 ` Kevin P. Fleming
2004-02-11  9:36                   ` Maneesh Soni
2004-02-11  7:50                 ` viro
2004-02-11 12:33                   ` Bill Rugolsky Jr.
2004-02-11 15:11                     ` [PATCH] Fix /etc/mtab updating with mount --move [was Re: devfs vs udev, thoughts from a devfs user] Bill Rugolsky Jr.
2004-02-11 19:19                     ` devfs vs udev, thoughts from a devfs user dleonard
2004-02-10 20:32           ` Diego Calleja García
2004-02-11  1:20           ` Mike Bell [this message]
2004-02-10 20:15         ` Timothy Miller
2004-02-10 22:24           ` Matthew Reppert
2004-02-11  1:35           ` Mike Bell
2004-02-10 20:44         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-02-10 17:55   ` Mike Bell
2004-02-10 18:19     ` Greg KH
2004-02-10 18:43       ` Mike Bell
2004-02-10 20:11         ` Theodore Ts'o
2004-02-11  1:49           ` Mike Bell
2004-02-10 19:12       ` Mike Bell
2004-02-13 21:08         ` Greg KH
2004-02-10 18:35 ` Greg KH
2004-02-11  1:25   ` Ian Kent
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-02-10 16:10 "Andrey Borzenkov" 
     [not found] <fa.i9mtr77.1pja9qf@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.de6p9mb.1ikipbl@ifi.uio.no>
2004-02-13 22:08   ` walt
2004-02-13 22:18     ` Greg KH

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