From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: John Bradford <john@grabjohn.com>
Cc: Robin Rosenberg <robin.rosenberg.lists@dewire.com>,
Linux kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: JFS default behavior (was: UTF-8 in file systems? xfs/extfs/etc.)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 00:17:02 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040213001702.GA24981@mail.shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200402121617.i1CGHH2c000275@81-2-122-30.bradfords.org.uk>
John Bradford wrote:
> > Definitely a good reason. It seem many assume file names are a local thing,
> > but this is not so. Now consider the case with an external firewire
> > disk or memory stick created on a machine with iso-8859-1 as the system character
> > set and e.g xfs as the file system. What happens when I hook it up to a new redhat
> > installation that thinks file names are best stored as utf8? Most non-ascii
> > file names aren't even legal in utf8.
>
> Another thing to consider is that you can encode the same character in
> several ways using utf8,
No, you can't. Only the shortest encoding of a character is valid
UTF-8, and any program which claims to comply with Unicode is
_required_ to reject all other encodings, citing security as the main
reason.
That means any code which transcodes UTF-8 to another encoding (such
as iso-8859-1) must reject the non-minimal forms as invalid
characters, in whatever way that is done.
If there's any transcoding code in Linux which doesn't do that, it's a
potential security hole and should be fixed.
> so two filenames could have different byte strings, but evaluate to
> the same set of unicode characters.
That's true in some other encodings I think (the iso-2022 ones), but
not UTF-8.
-- Jamie
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-02-13 0:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-02-09 11:58 UTF-8 in file systems? xfs/extfs/etc Nico Schottelius
2004-02-09 12:26 ` Måns Rullgård
2004-02-09 12:28 ` Hugo Mills
2004-02-09 13:04 ` Matthew Reppert
2004-02-09 13:36 ` Matthias Urlichs
2004-02-10 4:32 ` Mike Fedyk
2004-02-10 4:53 ` Matthias Urlichs
2004-02-10 9:46 ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-10 23:04 ` jw schultz
2004-02-10 23:17 ` viro
2004-02-10 23:23 ` Måns Rullgård
2004-02-11 0:02 ` Mike Fedyk
2004-02-09 15:06 ` Matthew Garrett
2004-02-11 6:39 ` Tim Connors
2004-02-11 16:35 ` JFS default behavior (was: UTF-8 in file systems? xfs/extfs/etc.) Dave Kleikamp
2004-02-12 0:45 ` Andy Isaacson
2004-02-12 1:19 ` Tim Connors
2004-02-12 3:54 ` jw schultz
2004-02-12 12:03 ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-12 8:54 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-12 15:55 ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-12 16:17 ` John Bradford
2004-02-12 16:40 ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-12 17:16 ` John Bradford
2004-02-12 18:06 ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-12 19:08 ` John Bradford
2004-02-12 19:39 ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-12 21:13 ` John Bradford
2004-02-12 22:29 ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-12 22:50 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-02-13 2:58 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-13 9:48 ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-13 3:15 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-14 15:24 ` Eduard Bloch
2004-02-13 0:17 ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2004-02-13 0:38 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-13 1:16 ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-13 1:23 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-13 1:46 ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-13 2:29 ` viro
2004-02-13 3:23 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-14 15:09 ` Eduard Bloch
2004-02-15 1:01 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-16 14:03 ` Eduard Bloch
2004-02-16 14:28 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-16 19:22 ` Eduard Bloch
2004-02-16 21:44 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-16 15:18 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-02-16 15:32 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-16 19:13 ` Eduard Bloch
2004-02-16 15:46 ` John Bradford
2004-02-16 15:48 ` viro
2004-02-16 16:43 ` John Bradford
2004-02-16 16:25 ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-16 15:27 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-16 15:44 ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-13 10:03 ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-13 10:22 ` vda
2004-02-13 10:29 ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-12 13:28 ` Dave Kleikamp
2004-02-12 15:26 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-02-12 15:41 ` Dave Kleikamp
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2004-02-12 16:50 Nicolas Mailhot
2004-02-12 18:12 ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-13 3:03 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-13 10:07 ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-13 18:06 ` Nicolas Mailhot
2004-02-13 18:15 ` viro
2004-02-13 18:24 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-02-13 18:31 ` viro
2004-02-13 20:27 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-13 18:31 ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-02-13 22:39 ` Robin Rosenberg
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2004-02-13 10:26 ` Robin Rosenberg
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2004-02-13 17:57 ` Nicolas Mailhot
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2004-02-15 14:26 ` Pascal Schmidt
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2004-02-16 15:44 ` Pascal Schmidt
2004-02-16 15:59 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
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2004-02-16 17:26 ` Pascal Schmidt
2004-02-16 17:58 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-02-16 19:48 ` Pascal Schmidt
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