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From: Lars Marowsky-Bree <lmb@suse.de>
To: Joe Thornber <thornber@redhat.com>
Cc: Linux Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, axboe@suse.de
Subject: Re: dm core patches
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 16:12:14 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040213151213.GR21298@marowsky-bree.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040212201340.GB1898@reti>

On 2004-02-12T20:13:40,
   Joe Thornber <thornber@redhat.com> said:

> I think the main concern now is over the testing of paths.  Sending an
> io down an inactive path can be very expensive for some hardware
> configurations.  So I'm considering changing a couple of things:
> 
> - Only ever send io to 1 priority group at a time (even test ios).
>   To test the lower priority groups we'd have to periodically switch to
>   them and use them for a bit for both test io and proper io.

You are missing the obvious answer:

- Periodically checking paths is a user-space issue and doesn't belong
  into the kernel. User-space gets to handle this policy.

> - For some hardware there are better ways of testing the path than
>   sending the test io.  Should the drivers expose a test function ?
>   In the absence of this we'd fallback to the test io method.

Again, with user-space taking care of this, it doesn't really matter.

Though exposing a test function does sound nice, even for user-space.

Moving it into kernel land is something which can always be done later,
if there is a really pressing problem.

> The other thing we need is to try and get the drivers to deferentiate
> between a media error and a path error, so that media errors get
> reported up quickly and don't cause false path failures.  This is
> possibly an area that you could help with ?

I thought the IO stack in 2.6 provided us with such sense keys already,
which you'd then need to handle in the DM personality. Of course,
drivers need to make sure they pass up appropriate sense-keys, but
that's a hardware vendor issue and not something which should delay the
DM personality...

Jens, do you have the pointer on this handy?



Sincerely,
    Lars Marowsky-Brée <lmb@suse.de>

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  reply	other threads:[~2004-02-13 15:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-02-10 16:35 dm core patches Joe Thornber
2004-02-10 16:57 ` [Patch 1/10] dm: Export dm_vcalloc() Joe Thornber
2004-02-10 16:59 ` [Patch 2/10] dm: Lift to_bytes() and to_sectors() into dm.h Joe Thornber
2004-02-10 16:59 ` [Patch 3/10] dm: Get rid of struct dm_deferred_io in dm.c Joe Thornber
2004-02-10 17:33   ` Christophe Saout
2004-02-10 17:00 ` [Patch 4/10] dm: Maintain ordering when deferring bios Joe Thornber
2004-02-10 17:00 ` [Patch 5/10] dm: Tidy up the error path for alloc_dev() Joe Thornber
2004-02-10 17:01 ` [Patch 6/10] dm: block size bug with 64 bit devs Joe Thornber
2004-02-10 17:01 ` [Patch 7/10] dm: Correct GFP flag in dm_table_create() Joe Thornber
2004-02-10 17:02 ` [Patch 8/10] dm: Zero size target sanity check Joe Thornber
2004-02-10 17:02 ` [Patch 9/10] dm: Remove redundant spin lock in dec_pending() Joe Thornber
2004-02-10 17:03 ` [Patch 10/10] dm: drop BIO_SEG_VALID bit Joe Thornber
2004-02-11 10:16 ` dm core patches Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-02-11 10:35   ` Joe Thornber
2004-02-12 18:51     ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-02-12 20:13       ` Joe Thornber
2004-02-13 15:12         ` Lars Marowsky-Bree [this message]
2004-02-13 15:39           ` Joe Thornber
2004-02-13 16:08             ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-02-16  8:19               ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-02-16  9:35                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-02-13 23:46             ` Mike Anderson
2004-02-16 12:17             ` Heinz Mauelshagen
2004-02-13 16:03           ` Jens Axboe
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-02-13 16:44 James Bottomley
2004-02-16  8:22 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2004-02-16 16:57 ` Jens Axboe
2004-02-16 17:04   ` James Bottomley
2004-02-19  0:26 ` Mike Christie
2004-02-19  3:40   ` Jeff Garzik

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