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From: "Angelo Dell'Aera" <buffer@antifork.org>
To: Giuliano Pochini <pochini@shiny.it>
Cc: Linux-Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Michael Frank <mhf@linuxmail.org>
Subject: Re: PATCH, RFC: 2.6 Documentation/Codingstyle
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 15:35:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040213153542.29686f0f.buffer@antifork.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <XFMail.20040213145513.pochini@shiny.it>

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On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 14:55:13 +0100 (CET)
Giuliano Pochini <pochini@shiny.it> wrote:

>> The 80 here has a pedagogical and a practical purpose.
>> The practical one is that it makes sure that everybody can read the source.
>> The pedagogical is to invite you to arrange the code in a different way
>> if you are nesting too deeply or your expressions are too complicated.

>Deeply nested doesn't mean unreadable or badly structured.

I think you're really wrong since "deeply nested" means exactly "unreadable 
and badly structured" and you could easily realize it by simply spending ~10 
hours per day coding and/or taking a look at the code written by someone 
which is not you. A simple use of inline functions and a previous thinking 
about what you're going to write could easily solve all problems. 

>1 tab in the function, 1tab a switch, 1 if, 1 for, 1 if and you have already 
>lost half of the available space. It's not difficult to find lines compressed
>towards the 79th column in the kernel sources. I propose to change "hard limit" 
>to "soft limit" to avoid things like this:
>
>                                rc=idefloppy_begin_format(drive, inode,
>                                                              file,
>                                                              (int *)arg);

No one is saying this line of code is the best one could imagine... have you
ever thought that maybe anything "floating around" that code line could be 
written in a not-well structured way?

>IMO we should try to keep function calls on the same line. btw it's
>only a matter of taste and the compiler accepts ugly code too :))

A compiler should do it, a maintainer IMHO should not for a really simple 
reason: readability (which in most cases means maintainability too).

>> There is also ergonomics. There is a reason newspapers do not print
>> text across the full width of the page - it would be very difficult
>> to read.

>Code has only one instruction per line.

Not a good point.


Regards.

- --

Angelo Dell'Aera 'buffer' 
Antifork Research, Inc.	  	http://buffer.antifork.org

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  reply	other threads:[~2004-02-13 14:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-02-12 22:15 PATCH, RFC: 2.6 Documentation/Codingstyle Michael Frank
2004-02-12 23:20 ` Tim Bird
2004-02-12 23:46   ` Måns Rullgård
2004-02-13  0:19   ` Tim Hockin
2004-02-12 23:38 ` Randy.Dunlap
2004-02-13  1:50   ` Alex Goddard
2004-02-13  1:52   ` Maciej Zenczykowski
2004-02-13  0:13 ` viro
2004-02-13  1:12 ` J. Bruce Fields
2004-02-13  8:49 ` PATCH, RFC: Version 2 of 2.6 Codingstyle Michael Frank
2004-02-13  9:44   ` Andries Brouwer
2004-02-13 11:24     ` Nikita Danilov
2004-02-16 17:56     ` Ludootje
2004-02-13 22:38   ` Randy.Dunlap
2004-02-13  8:58 ` PATCH, RFC: 2.6 Documentation/Codingstyle Giuliano Pochini
2004-02-13  9:10   ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-13  9:49     ` Michael Frank
2004-02-13 10:09       ` Nick Piggin
2004-02-13 10:50         ` Michael Frank
2004-02-18  7:39           ` Miles Bader
2004-02-13 12:44     ` viro
2004-02-13  9:19   ` David Weinehall
2004-02-13 11:42   ` Andries Brouwer
2004-02-13 12:13     ` Måns Rullgård
2004-02-13 12:42     ` Ed Tomlinson
2004-02-13 13:55     ` Giuliano Pochini
2004-02-13 14:35       ` Angelo Dell'Aera [this message]
2004-02-13 15:42         ` Giuliano Pochini
2004-02-13 15:48         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-02-13 16:38           ` Angelo Dell'Aera
2004-02-13 17:03             ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-02-13 16:18       ` viro
2004-02-14  0:38 ` Kevin O'Connor
2004-02-14  0:56   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-02-14  1:44 ` PATCH, RFC: Version 3 of 2.6 Codingstyle Michael Frank
2004-02-14  3:44   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2004-02-15 10:09     ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-14 20:44 ` PATCH, RFC: Version 4 " Michael Frank
2004-02-14 21:27   ` viro
2004-02-16  3:47 ` PATCH, RFC: Version 5 " Michael Frank
     [not found] <fa.fbh88ra.kn8094@ifi.uio.no>
2004-02-13  6:41 ` PATCH, RFC: 2.6 Documentation/Codingstyle Junio C Hamano
2004-02-13  7:18   ` vda
2004-02-13 12:37     ` Maciej Zenczykowski
2004-02-13 13:57       ` vda

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