From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: "Måns Rullgård" <mru@kth.se>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: UTF-8 practically vs. theoretically in the VFS API
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 20:57:07 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040217205707.GF24311@mail.shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <yw1xr7wtcz0n.fsf@ford.guide>
Måns Rullgård wrote:
> > I'd like a way to type something like "touch zöe.txt" on an ordinary
> > latin1 terminal and get a UTF-8 filename in my filesystem. Thanks :)
>
> Then hack either bash (or whatever shell you use) or touch to do just that.
Hacking touch is obviously useless - I'd need to hack all the other
2000 shell utilities to get any useful behaviour.
Hacking bash -- actually readline -- is a much better idea. Then you
can enter names and they'll be created right. The only flaw in this
is that "ls" won't be useful, so that'll need to be hacked as well. etc.
No, I think hacking the terminal I/O is the best bet here. Then _all_
programs which currently work with UTF-8 terminals, which is rapidly
becoming most of them, will work the same with both kinds of terminal,
and the illusion of perfection will be complete and beautiful.
-- Jamie
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Thread overview: 120+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <04Feb13.163954est.41760@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca>
2004-02-14 14:27 ` JFS default behavior Nicolas Mailhot
2004-02-14 15:40 ` viro
2004-02-14 17:47 ` Nicolas Mailhot
2004-02-14 17:59 ` Nicolas Mailhot
2004-02-14 23:06 ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-14 23:29 ` viro
2004-02-15 0:07 ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-15 2:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-15 3:33 ` Matthias Urlichs
2004-02-15 4:04 ` viro
2004-02-15 9:48 ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-15 18:26 ` yodaiken
2004-02-18 2:48 ` Unicode normalization (userspace issue, but what the heck) H. Peter Anvin
2004-02-20 9:48 ` Matthias Urlichs
2004-02-16 15:05 ` stty utf8 Jamie Lokier
2004-02-16 16:10 ` Gerd Knorr
2004-02-16 22:03 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-16 22:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-16 22:04 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-16 18:36 ` UTF-8 practically vs. theoretically in the VFS API (was: Re: JFS default behavior) Marc Lehmann
2004-02-16 18:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-16 19:26 ` UTF-8 practically vs. theoretically in the VFS API Jeff Garzik
2004-02-16 19:48 ` John Bradford
2004-02-16 19:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-16 20:20 ` Marc Lehmann
2004-02-16 20:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-18 2:49 ` Rob Landley
2004-02-16 20:21 ` bert hubert
2004-02-16 20:33 ` Marc Lehmann
2004-02-18 2:58 ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-02-18 3:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-18 3:22 ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-02-18 3:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-18 5:30 ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-02-18 10:29 ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-18 11:49 ` Tomas Szepe
2004-02-18 11:59 ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-18 12:05 ` Tomas Szepe
2004-02-18 12:34 ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-18 15:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-18 19:47 ` Tomas Szepe
2004-02-18 20:01 ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-02-18 21:22 ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-18 21:42 ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-02-18 11:24 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-18 11:33 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-18 16:47 ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-02-18 19:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-18 20:08 ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-02-18 7:25 ` bert hubert
2004-02-16 20:16 ` Marc Lehmann
2004-02-16 20:20 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-02-16 21:10 ` viro
2004-02-17 7:18 ` jw schultz
2004-02-17 7:42 ` Nick Piggin
2004-02-16 20:03 ` UTF-8 practically vs. theoretically in the VFS API (was: Re: JFS default behavior) Marc Lehmann
2004-02-16 20:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-16 20:58 ` Marc Lehmann
2004-02-17 14:12 ` Dave Kleikamp
2004-02-16 22:26 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-16 22:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-16 22:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-17 13:15 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-17 7:14 ` Lehmann
2004-02-17 11:20 ` UTF-8 practically vs. theoretically in the VFS API Helge Hafting
2004-02-17 15:56 ` UTF-8 practically vs. theoretically in the VFS API (was: Re: JFS default behavior) Linus Torvalds
[not found] ` <20040217161111.GE8231@schmorp.de>
2004-02-17 16:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-17 16:46 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-17 19:00 ` UTF-8 practically vs. theoretically in the VFS API Måns Rullgård
2004-02-17 20:57 ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2004-02-17 21:06 ` Alex Belits
2004-02-17 21:47 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-22 15:32 ` Eric W. Biederman
2004-02-22 16:28 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-22 21:53 ` Eric W. Biederman
2004-02-18 7:23 ` Marc Lehmann
2004-02-17 21:23 ` Matthew Kirkwood
2004-02-18 13:11 ` UTF-8 practically vs. theoretically in the VFS API (was: Re: JFS default behavior) Matthew Garrett
2004-02-17 16:52 ` Marc Lehmann
2004-02-17 16:54 ` UTF-8 practically vs. theoretically in the VFS API Stefan Smietanowski
2004-02-18 1:27 ` Hans Reiser
2004-02-18 2:08 ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-18 11:06 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-17 20:37 ` UTF-8 practically vs. theoretically in the VFS API (was: Re: JFS default behavior) Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-17 16:36 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-17 17:52 ` viro
2004-02-17 19:29 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-17 19:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-17 20:30 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-17 20:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-17 21:17 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-17 19:51 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-17 19:53 ` viro
2004-02-17 20:35 ` John Bradford
2004-02-17 20:40 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-17 20:50 ` John Bradford
2004-02-17 21:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-17 21:16 ` John Bradford
2004-02-17 21:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-18 0:52 ` John Bradford
2004-02-17 22:50 ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-18 6:48 ` Marc Lehmann
2004-02-17 20:47 ` viro
2004-02-17 20:53 ` John Bradford
2004-02-17 20:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-17 21:06 ` John Bradford
2004-02-17 21:42 ` Alex Belits
2004-02-18 6:56 ` Marc Lehmann
2004-02-18 20:37 ` Alex Belits
2004-02-18 3:11 ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-02-17 20:38 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-18 3:07 ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-02-21 13:54 ` Pavel Machek
2004-02-22 20:09 ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-02-17 1:24 ` Alex Belits
2004-02-17 21:09 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-17 21:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-17 22:19 ` Alex Belits
2004-02-23 11:35 UTF-8 practically vs. theoretically in the VFS API Norman Diamond
[not found] ` <fa.ip45pqg.i26oru@ifi.uio.no>
2004-02-23 19:13 ` Junio C Hamano
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