From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S263448AbUBRHXl (ORCPT ); Wed, 18 Feb 2004 02:23:41 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S263606AbUBRHXl (ORCPT ); Wed, 18 Feb 2004 02:23:41 -0500 Received: from islay.mach.uni-karlsruhe.de ([129.13.162.92]:49844 "EHLO mailout.schmorp.de") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S263448AbUBRHXk (ORCPT ); Wed, 18 Feb 2004 02:23:40 -0500 Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 08:23:32 +0100 From: Marc Lehmann To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: UTF-8 practically vs. theoretically in the VFS API Message-ID: <20040218072332.GG1146@schmorp.de> Mail-Followup-To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <20040216222618.GF18853@mail.shareable.org> <20040217071448.GA8846@schmorp.de> <20040217161111.GE8231@schmorp.de> <20040217164651.GB23499@mail.shareable.org> <20040217205707.GF24311@mail.shareable.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: Linux version 2.4.24 (root@cerebro) (gcc version 2.95.4 20011002 (Debian prerelease)) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 02:06:21PM -0700, Alex Belits wrote: > UTF-8 terminals (and variable-encoding terminals) alreay exist, > gnome-terminal is one of them. They are, of course, bloated pigs, but I rxvt-unicode (mixed fonts, bad complex script), and mlterm (no mixed fonts, very good complex script support), are not all bloated, have a _much_ smaller memory footprint than xterm and are even faster on text output and scrolling complex scripts than xterm (by a factor of two). (Of course, gnome-terminal is bloated. loading it requires 45MB of main memory here and then it's still 5-10 times slower than xterm). That UTF-8/Unicode in any way means bloated (I know you did not directly imply this) is a widely circulating but wrong idea nowadays. -- -----==- | ----==-- _ | ---==---(_)__ __ ____ __ Marc Lehmann +-- --==---/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / pcg@goof.com |e| -=====/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ XX11-RIPE --+ The choice of a GNU generation | |