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From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Cc: jw schultz <jw@pegasys.ws>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: JFS default behavior
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 09:59:15 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040218095915.GC28599@mail.shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0402171400540.2154@home.osdl.org>

Linus Torvalds wrote:
> Doesn't "screen" already do this? I don't think you want to have the
> locale handling in the kernel, along with translation of multi-key
> characters (and from things like CJK terminals? I don't know what format
> they send).  Sounds like you should use a user-mode thing that knows about
> locales...

Yes.  I was thinking in a rather DEC VT100/Putty/xterm- centric way
for a moment; please excuse the slip.

It's irritating that logging in from the wrong kind of terminal
doesn't just provide the right "user experience" for the command line
automatically.  It's also a pain that ssh doesn't inform the remote
end whether the local terminal is UTF-8, so everything seem to be
working fine until one day you discover typing "£" in an editor just
beeps.  Grr..  Oh well.

These are all solvable in userspace.  Then again, so were most of the
other stty options; didn't stop them from being implemented in the kernel :)

-- Jamie

  reply	other threads:[~2004-02-18  9:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-02-15 23:03 JFS default behavior Nicolas Mailhot
2004-02-16  3:45 ` Jan Knutar
2004-02-16  8:30   ` Nicolas Mailhot
2004-02-16  8:54     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-02-16  6:21 ` jw schultz
2004-02-16 15:55   ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-17  6:47     ` jw schultz
2004-02-17 21:37       ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-17 22:12         ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-18  9:59           ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2004-02-18 15:54             ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-18 23:58               ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-19 10:59 ` JFS default behavior / UTF-8 filenames kernel
2004-02-19 14:05   ` Dave Kleikamp
2004-02-19 23:47     ` kernel
2004-02-20 15:00       ` Dave Kleikamp
2004-02-22 19:22         ` kernel
2004-02-24 14:44           ` Dave Kleikamp
     [not found] <1pvUz-6j-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <1pRVj-2am-29@gated-at.bofh.it>
2004-02-16 15:32   ` JFS default behavior Pascal Schmidt
2004-02-16 19:05     ` Eduard Bloch
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-02-15 14:48 Pascal Schmidt
2004-02-16 14:24 ` Eduard Bloch
     [not found] <04Feb13.163954est.41760@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca>
2004-02-14 14:27 ` Nicolas Mailhot
2004-02-14 15:40   ` viro
2004-02-14 17:47     ` Nicolas Mailhot
2004-02-14 17:59       ` Nicolas Mailhot
2004-02-14 23:06     ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-14 23:29       ` viro
2004-02-15  0:07         ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-15  2:41           ` Linus Torvalds
2004-02-15  3:33             ` Matthias Urlichs
2004-02-15  4:04               ` viro
2004-02-15  9:48                 ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-02-15 18:26                 ` yodaiken
2004-02-12 16:50 JFS default behavior (was: UTF-8 in file systems? xfs/extfs/etc.) Nicolas Mailhot
2004-02-13  3:03 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-02-13 18:06   ` Nicolas Mailhot
2004-02-13 18:15     ` viro
2004-02-13 18:31       ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-02-13 18:50         ` JFS default behavior Ulrich Drepper

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