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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
To: davidm@hpl.hp.com
Cc: davidm@napali.hpl.hp.com, peter@chubb.wattle.id.au,
	kingsley@aurema.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Daniel Jacobowitz <dan@debian.org>
Subject: Re: /proc visibility patch breaks GDB, etc.
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 12:09:59 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040226120959.35b284ff.akpm@osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <16446.19305.637880.99704@napali.hpl.hp.com>

David Mosberger <davidm@napali.hpl.hp.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>> On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 22:44:10 -0800, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org> said:
> 
>   Andrew> Peter Chubb <peter@chubb.wattle.id.au> wrote:
>   >> 
>   >> 
>   >> In fs/proc/base.c:proc_pid_lookup(), the patch
>   >> 
>   >> read_unlock(&tasklist_lock); if (!task) goto out; + if
>   >> (!thread_group_leader(task)) + goto out_drop_task;
>   >> 
>   >> inode = proc_pid_make_inode(dir->i_sb, task, PROC_TGID_INO);
>   >> 
>   >> means that threads other than the thread group leader don't
>   >> appear in the /proc top-level directory.  Programs that are
>   >> informed via pid of events can no longer find the appropriate
>   >> process -- for example, using gdb on a multi-threaded process, or
>   >> profiling using perfmon.
>   >> 
>   >> The immediate symptom is GDB saying: Could not open
>   >> /proc/757/status when 757 is a TID not a PID.
> 
>   Andrew> What does `ls /proc/757' say?  Presumably no such file or
>   Andrew> directory?  It's fairly bizare behaviour to be able to open
>   Andrew> files which don't exist according to readdir, which is why
>   Andrew> we made that change.
> 
> Excuse, but this seems seriously FOOBAR.  I understand that it's
> interesting to see the thread-leader/thread relationship, but surely
> that's no reason to break backwards compatibility and the ability to
> look up _any_ task's info via /proc/PID/.

Well you can't look them up - you can only open them.  But I take your
point.  In another life, these things would appear under a special
/proc/magical_directory_which_has_dopey_semantics.

> A program that only wants
> to show "processes" (thread-group leaders) can simply read
> /proc/PID/status and ignore the entries for which Tgid != PPid.
> 
> Perhaps you could put relative symlinks in task/?  Something like
> this:
> 
>  $ ls -l /proc/self/task
>  dr-xr-xr-x    3 davidm   users           0 Feb 26 11:37 13494 -> ..
>  dr-xr-xr-x    3 davidm   users           0 Feb 26 11:37 13495 -> ../../13495
> 
> perhaps?

Well the contents of /proc/pid/task are OK at present.

I guess we should revert that change.

  reply	other threads:[~2004-02-26 20:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-02-26  6:27 /proc visibility patch breaks GDB, etc Peter Chubb
2004-02-26  6:44 ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-26 16:02   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-02-26 19:39   ` David Mosberger
2004-02-26 20:09     ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2004-02-26 21:59       ` Kingsley Cheung
2004-02-26 22:14         ` Peter Chubb
2004-02-26 23:19         ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-26 23:29           ` Kingsley Cheung
2004-02-26 23:48           ` Peter Chubb
2004-02-26 20:10     ` Peter Chubb

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