From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262834AbUBZUNH (ORCPT ); Thu, 26 Feb 2004 15:13:07 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262964AbUBZUNG (ORCPT ); Thu, 26 Feb 2004 15:13:06 -0500 Received: from guug.galileo.edu ([168.234.203.30]:21384 "EHLO guug.galileo.edu") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S262971AbUBZULy (ORCPT ); Thu, 26 Feb 2004 15:11:54 -0500 Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 14:12:16 -0600 To: James Simmons Cc: Geert Uytterhoeven , Benjamin Herrenschmidt , Linux Fbdev development list , Linux Kernel list Subject: Re: [Linux-fbdev-devel] fbdv/fbcon pending problems Message-ID: <20040226201216.GH17390@guug.org> References: <20040226194020.GF17390@guug.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.5.1+cvs20040105i From: Otto Solares Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, Feb 26, 2004 at 07:45:47PM +0000, James Simmons wrote: > > > Exactly, that's the whole point, if you want userland accel you must disable > > kernel land accel. That's was my question against acceleration work inside > > the kernel. Nobody use it in userland and is the stability devil in fbdev. > > If you want acceleration in userland there is mesa-solo or directfb or console-sdl. > > > > In short acceleration belongs to specialized libs not the kernel. > > > > Why accel it is needed for font drawing?, i am pretty sure my 8bit video old > > sparc doesn't have any accel and is pretty capable for drawing fonts. > > Because we are going to run into graphics hardware that don't have > framebuffers. The solution is the one we are approaching now. That fbcon > be a client like userland apps to the accel engine. You will see it will > all work out :-) Oh, that fact changes everything :) -otto