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From: "Amit S. Kale" <amitkale@emsyssoft.com>
To: George Anzinger <george@mvista.com>
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>,
	akpm@osdl.org, pavel@ucw.cz, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	piggy@timesys.com, trini@kernel.crashing.org
Subject: Re: kgdb support in vanilla 2.6.2
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 15:08:23 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200403011508.23626.amitkale@emsyssoft.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <403FDB37.2020704@mvista.com>

On Saturday 28 Feb 2004 5:35 am, George Anzinger wrote:
> Amit S. Kale wrote:
> > On Friday 06 Feb 2004 6:54 pm, Andi Kleen wrote:
> >>On Fri, 6 Feb 2004 18:35:16 +0530
> >>
> >>"Amit S. Kale" <amitkale@emsyssoft.com> wrote:
> >>>On Friday 06 Feb 2004 5:46 pm, Andi Kleen wrote:
> >>>>On Fri, 6 Feb 2004 17:28:36 +0530
> >>>>
> >>>>"Amit S. Kale" <amitkale@emsyssoft.com> wrote:
> >>>>>On Friday 06 Feb 2004 7:50 am, Andi Kleen wrote:
> >>>>>>On Thu, 5 Feb 2004 23:20:04 +0530
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>"Amit S. Kale" <amitkale@emsyssoft.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>On Thursday 05 Feb 2004 8:41 am, Andi Kleen wrote:
> >>>>>>>>Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org> writes:
> >>>>>>>>>need to take a look at such things and really convice
> >>>>>>>>>ourselves that they're worthwhile.  Personally, I'd only be
> >>>>>>>>>interested in the basic stub.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>What I found always extremly ugly in the i386 stub was that it
> >>>>>>>>uses magic globals to talk to the page fault handler. For the
> >>>>>>>>x86-64 version I replaced that by just using __get/__put_user
> >>>>>>>>in the memory accesses, which is much cleaner. I would suggest
> >>>>>>>>doing that for i386 too.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>May be I am missing something obvious. When debugging a page
> >>>>>>>fault handler if kgdb accesses an swapped-out user page doesn't
> >>>>>>>it deadlock when trying to hold mm semaphore?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Modern i386 kernels don't grab the mm semaphore when the access is
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>= TASK_SIZE and the access came from kernel space (actually I see
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>x86-64 still does, but that's a bug, will fix). You could only see
> >>>>>>a deadlock when using user addresses and you already hold the mm
> >>>>>>semaphore for writing (normal read lock is ok). Just don't do that.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>OK. It don't deadlock when kgdb accesses kernel addresses.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>When a user space address is accessed through kgdb, won't the kernel
> >>>>>attempt to fault in the user page? We don't want that to happen
> >>>>>inside kgdb.
> >>>>
> >>>>Yes, it will. But I don't think it's a bad thing. If the users doesn't
> >>>>want that they should not follow user addresses. After all kgdb is for
> >>>>people who know what they are doing.
> >>>
> >>>Let kgdb refuse to access any addresses below TASK_SIZE. That's better
> >>>than accidentally typing something and getting lost.
> >>
> >>That's fine. But can you perhaps add a magic command that enables it
> >> again?
> >
> > Yes. This sounds good.
>
> This could be a flag in the kgdb_info structure.  See -mm kgdb.  Does not
> require any new commands as it is just a global the user can change.

Having all user modifiable variables in one place is definitely a good idea.  
Need to do this sometime.
-Amit

  reply	other threads:[~2004-03-01  9:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <20040204155452.4 9c1eba8.akpm@osdl.org.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found] ` <20040204152137.500e8319.akpm@osdl.org.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]   ` <402182B8.7030900@timesys.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]     ` <20040204155452.49c1eba8.akpm@osdl.org.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2004-02-05  3:11       ` kgdb support in vanilla 2.6.2 Andi Kleen
2004-02-05 12:16         ` Pavel Machek
2004-02-05 17:50         ` Amit S. Kale
2004-02-06  2:20           ` Andi Kleen
2004-02-06 11:58             ` Amit S. Kale
2004-02-06 12:16               ` Andi Kleen
2004-02-06 13:05                 ` Amit S. Kale
2004-02-06 13:24                   ` Andi Kleen
2004-02-06 13:44                     ` Amit S. Kale
2004-02-28  0:05                       ` George Anzinger
2004-03-01  9:38                         ` Amit S. Kale [this message]
2004-03-02 21:10                           ` George Anzinger
2004-03-02 21:27                             ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-02 23:52                               ` George Anzinger
2004-03-03  5:08                                 ` Amit S. Kale
2004-03-03 16:06                                   ` Tom Rini
2004-03-04  0:42                                   ` George Anzinger
2004-03-03 10:05                               ` Andi Kleen
2004-03-04  0:43                                 ` George Anzinger
2004-03-04  0:50                                   ` Andi Kleen
2004-03-04  5:06                                     ` Amit S. Kale
2004-03-04  5:18                                       ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-04  5:29                                         ` Amit S. Kale
2004-03-04  5:44                                           ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-04 20:54                                           ` George Anzinger
2004-03-04 21:03                                             ` Tom Rini
2004-03-04 23:15                                               ` George Anzinger
2004-03-04 13:01                                         ` Andi Kleen
2004-02-11 14:52                     ` Amit S. Kale
2004-02-10 21:56             ` George Anzinger
2004-02-13 19:42               ` Andi Kleen
2004-02-12  1:34                 ` George Anzinger
2004-02-12  8:33                   ` Andi Kleen
2004-02-27 21:09               ` Piet Delaney
2004-02-27 21:58                 ` George Anzinger
2004-02-27 23:33                 ` Pavel Machek
2004-02-04 23:01 Pavel Machek
2004-02-04 23:21 ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-04 23:24   ` Pavel Machek
2004-02-04 23:45     ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-04 23:55     ` Tom Rini
2004-02-05  0:16       ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-05  0:23         ` Tom Rini
2004-02-20  0:15         ` George Anzinger
2004-02-04 23:39   ` La Monte H.P. Yarroll
2004-02-04 23:54     ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-05  1:19       ` Pavel Machek
2004-02-20  0:24       ` George Anzinger
2004-02-05  0:39     ` Pavel Machek
2004-02-04 23:52 ` Tom Rini
2004-02-05  0:17   ` Paul Mundt
2004-02-05  0:32     ` Tom Rini

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