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From: Rob Couto <rpc@cafe4111.org>
To: Billy Rose <billyrose@cox-internet.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: kernel mode console
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 22:20:00 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200403042220.00046.rpc@cafe4111.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200403041858.45617.billyrose@cox-internet.com>

On Thursday 04 March 2004 07:58 pm, you wrote:
> i think perhaps i need to expound upon what i have a vision of. a kernel
> mode console is just that: a console designed to run in kernel mode. it
> could have built in commands to allow for quick and dirty examination of
> stuff (anything really, like memory dumps) and a command processor for
> scripted stuff, but the true power of it comes in when you issue a command
> that is not internal to the console. it could run a special debugger, an
> application that installs a probe, a memory monitor, etc., etc. in short it
> is not a debugger per-say, but a "god mode" console for the linux kernel.
> that is what i had a vision of. the executables it would run would
> necessarily be compiled for that. again, i ask is that worth the time
> coding it?

a kbash? ksh is taken... kash would become instantly confusing to some 
english-speakers... fun for some, but others would hear it and think 'cache' 
and immediately be thrown out of sync ;)

you could extend proc (or is it just sys?) that way, creating files that can 
trigger events ('echo (desired range) > /proc/sh/memdump/range', 'echo 1 
> /proc/sh/memdump/go' or even simply 'cat /proc/sh/memdump/out' after 
inputting range) and stick with the cat/echo control... some of your 
userspace shell's commands could simply be wrappers for ordinary 'echo foo 
> /proc/foo' already

OTOH, someone said proc's been abused already, having it do things that aren't 
its job and causing disorganization in the kernel. i dunno, that's why im not 
in charge

-- 
Rob Couto
rpc@cafe4111.org
Rules for computing success:
1) Attitude is no substitute for competence.
2) Ease of use is no substitute for power.
3) Safety matters; use a static-free hammer.
--

  reply	other threads:[~2004-03-05  3:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-03-03  3:52 kernel mode console Billy Rose
2004-03-03  3:57 ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-03-03 17:09   ` Matt Mackall
2004-03-03 16:49 ` Tim Bird
2004-03-04  4:12   ` Krishnakumar. R
2004-03-05  0:58     ` Billy Rose
2004-03-05  3:20       ` Rob Couto [this message]
2004-03-05 11:47       ` John Bradford
     [not found] <200403022152.06950.billyrose@cox-internet.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2004-03-03 17:18 ` Andi Kleen

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