From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Peter Zaitsev <peter@mysql.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
andrea@suse.de, riel@redhat.com, mbligh@aracnet.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 2.4.23aa2 (bugfixes and important VM improvements for the high end)
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 11:33:08 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040305103308.GA5092@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1078371876.3403.810.camel@abyss.local>
* Peter Zaitsev <peter@mysql.com> wrote:
> > > For Disk Bound workloads (200 Warehouse) I got 1250TPM for "hugemem" vs
> > > 1450TPM for "smp" kernel, which is some 14% slowdown.
> >
> > Please define these terms. What is the difference between "hugemem" and
> > "smp"?
>
> Sorry if I was unclear. These are suffexes from RH AS 3.0 kernel
> namings. "SMP" corresponds to normal SMP kernel they have, "hugemem"
> is kernel with 4G/4G split.
the 'hugemem' kernel also has config_highpte defined which is a bit
redundant - that complexity one could avoid with the 4/4 split. Another
detail: the hugemem kernel also enables PAE, which adds another 2 usecs
to every syscall (!). So these performance numbers only hold if you are
running mysql on x86 using more than 4GB of RAM. (which, given mysql's
threaded design, doesnt make all that much of a sense.)
But no doubt, the 4/4 split is not for free. If a workload does lots of
high-frequency system-calls then the cost can be pretty high.
vsyscall-sys_gettimeofday and vsyscall-sys_time could help quite some
for mysql. Also, the highly threaded nature of mysql on the same MM
which is pretty much the worst-case for the 4/4 design. If it's an
issue, there are multiple ways to mitigate this cost.
but 4/4 is mostly a life-extender for the high end of the x86 platform -
which is dying fast. If i were to decide between some of the highly
intrusive architectural highmem solutions (which all revolve about the
concept of dynamically mapping back and forth) and the simplicity of
4/4, i'd go for 4/4 unless forced otherwise.
Ingo
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Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-02-27 1:33 2.4.23aa2 (bugfixes and important VM improvements for the high end) Andrea Arcangeli
2004-02-27 4:38 ` Rik van Riel
2004-02-27 17:32 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-02-27 19:08 ` Rik van Riel
2004-02-27 20:29 ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-27 20:49 ` Rik van Riel
2004-02-27 20:55 ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-27 21:28 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-02-27 21:37 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-02-28 3:22 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-01 11:10 ` Nikita Danilov
2004-02-27 21:15 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-02-27 22:03 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-02-27 22:23 ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-28 2:32 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-02-28 4:57 ` Wim Coekaerts
2004-02-28 6:18 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-02-28 6:45 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-02-28 7:05 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-02-28 9:19 ` Dave Hansen
2004-03-18 2:44 ` Andrea Arcangeli
[not found] ` <20040228061838.GO8834@dualathlon.random.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2004-02-28 12:46 ` Andi Kleen
2004-02-29 1:39 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-02-29 2:29 ` Andi Kleen
2004-02-29 16:34 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-02-28 6:10 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-02-28 6:43 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-02-28 7:00 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-02-28 7:29 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-02-28 14:55 ` Rik van Riel
2004-02-28 15:06 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-02-29 1:43 ` Andrea Arcangeli
[not found] ` < 1078370073.3403.759.camel@abyss.local>
2004-03-04 3:14 ` Peter Zaitsev
2004-03-04 3:33 ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-04 3:44 ` Peter Zaitsev
2004-03-04 4:07 ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-04 4:44 ` Peter Zaitsev
2004-03-04 4:52 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-04 5:10 ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-04 5:27 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-04 5:38 ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-05 20:19 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-03-05 20:33 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-05 21:44 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-03-04 12:12 ` Rik van Riel
2004-03-04 16:21 ` Peter Zaitsev
2004-03-04 18:13 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-04 17:35 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-03-04 18:16 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-04 19:31 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-03-04 20:21 ` Peter Zaitsev
2004-03-05 10:33 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2004-03-05 14:15 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-05 14:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-05 14:58 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-05 15:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-05 15:53 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-07 8:41 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-07 10:29 ` Nick Piggin
2004-03-07 17:33 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-08 5:15 ` Nick Piggin
2004-03-07 17:24 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-05 21:28 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-03-05 18:42 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-03-05 19:13 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-05 19:55 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-03-05 20:29 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-05 20:41 ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-05 21:07 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-05 22:12 ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-05 14:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-05 14:59 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-05 15:02 ` Ingo Molnar
[not found] ` <20040305150225.GA13237@elte.hu.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2004-03-05 15:51 ` Andi Kleen
2004-03-05 16:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-05 16:39 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-07 8:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-10 13:21 ` Andi Kleen
2004-03-05 16:42 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-05 16:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-05 16:58 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-05 20:11 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-03-06 5:12 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-03-06 12:56 ` Magnus Naeslund(t)
2004-03-06 13:13 ` Magnus Naeslund(t)
2004-03-07 11:55 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-07 6:50 ` Peter Zaitsev
2004-03-02 9:10 ` Kurt Garloff
2004-03-02 15:32 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-02-27 21:42 ` Hugh Dickins
2004-02-27 23:18 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-02-27 22:39 ` Andrew Morton
2004-02-27 20:31 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-02-29 6:34 ` Mike Fedyk
[not found] <20040304175821.GO4922@dualathlon.random>
2004-03-04 22:14 ` Rik van Riel
2004-03-04 23:24 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-05 3:43 ` Rik van Riel
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2004-03-12 21:15 ` Andi Kleen
2004-03-18 19:50 ` Peter Zaitsev
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