From: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
To: Arjan van de Ven <arjanv@redhat.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: objrmap-core-1 (rmap removal for file mappings to avoid 4:4 in <=16G machines)
Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 00:08:45 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040308230845.GD12612@dualathlon.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1078781318.4678.9.camel@laptop.fenrus.com>
On Mon, Mar 08, 2004 at 10:28:38PM +0100, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> > . Basically without
> > this fix it's like 2.6 is running w/o pte-highmem. 700 tasks with 2.7G
> > of shm mapped each would run the box out of zone-normal even with 4:4.
> > With 3:1 100 tasks would be enough. Math is easy:
> >
> > 2.7*1024*1024*1024/4096*8*100/1024/1024/1024
> > 2.7*1024*1024*1024/4096*8*700/1024/1024/1024
>
>
> not saying your patch is not useful or anything,but there is a less
> invasive shortcut possible. Oracle wants to mlock() its shared area, and
> for mlock()'d pages we don't need a pte chain *at all*. So we could get
> rid of a lot of this overhead that way.
I agree that works fine for Oracle, that's becase Oracle is an extreme
special case since most of this shared memory is an I/O cache, this is
not the case of other apps, and those other apps really depends on the
kernel vm paging algorithms for things more than istantiating a pte (or
a pmd if it's a largepage). Other apps can't use mlock. Some of these
apps works closely with oracle too.
dropping pte_chains through mlock was suggested around april 2003
originally by Wli and I didn't like that idea since we really want to
allow swapping if we run short of ram. And it doesn't solve the
scalability slowdown on the 32-way for kernel compiles either.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-03-08 23:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 111+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-03-08 20:24 objrmap-core-1 (rmap removal for file mappings to avoid 4:4 in <=16G machines) Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-08 20:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-03-08 21:23 ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-08 23:02 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-08 23:21 ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-08 23:40 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-09 0:10 ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-09 0:35 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-09 0:59 ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-09 8:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-09 8:44 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-09 9:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-09 14:51 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-09 15:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-09 15:24 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-09 16:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-09 16:35 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-08 21:02 ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-08 22:34 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-09 2:46 ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-08 21:28 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-03-08 23:08 ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2004-03-09 7:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-09 15:21 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-09 15:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-09 16:33 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-09 17:23 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-03-09 19:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-09 20:27 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-10 11:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-10 12:32 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-09 10:52 ` [lockup] " Ingo Molnar
2004-03-09 11:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-09 11:09 ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-09 11:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-09 12:32 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-09 16:03 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-10 10:36 ` RFC anon_vma previous (i.e. full objrmap) Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-10 10:40 ` RFC anon_vma preview " Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-10 10:54 ` RFC anon_vma previous " Ingo Molnar
2004-03-11 6:52 ` anon_vma RFC2 Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-11 13:23 ` Hugh Dickins
2004-03-11 13:56 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-11 21:54 ` Hugh Dickins
2004-03-12 1:47 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-12 2:20 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-12 3:28 ` Rik van Riel
2004-03-12 12:21 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-12 12:40 ` Rik van Riel
2004-03-12 13:11 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-12 16:25 ` Rik van Riel
2004-03-12 17:13 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-12 17:23 ` Rik van Riel
2004-03-12 17:44 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-12 18:18 ` Rik van Riel
2004-03-12 18:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-03-12 18:48 ` Rik van Riel
2004-03-12 19:02 ` Chris Friesen
2004-03-12 19:06 ` Rik van Riel
2004-03-12 19:10 ` Chris Friesen
2004-03-12 19:14 ` Rik van Riel
2004-03-12 20:27 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-12 20:32 ` Rik van Riel
2004-03-12 20:49 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-12 21:08 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-03-12 12:42 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-12 12:46 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-12 13:24 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-12 13:40 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-12 13:55 ` Hugh Dickins
2004-03-12 16:01 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-12 16:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-03-13 0:28 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-13 14:43 ` Rik van Riel
2004-03-13 16:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-03-13 17:24 ` Hugh Dickins
2004-03-13 17:28 ` Rik van Riel
2004-03-13 17:41 ` Hugh Dickins
2004-03-13 18:08 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-13 17:54 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-13 17:55 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-13 18:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-03-13 19:14 ` Hugh Dickins
2004-03-13 17:48 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-13 17:33 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-13 17:53 ` Hugh Dickins
2004-03-13 18:13 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-13 19:35 ` Hugh Dickins
2004-03-13 17:57 ` Rik van Riel
2004-03-12 13:43 ` Hugh Dickins
2004-03-12 15:56 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-12 16:12 ` Hugh Dickins
2004-03-12 16:39 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-11 17:33 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-11 22:20 ` Rik van Riel
2004-03-11 23:43 ` Hugh Dickins
2004-03-12 3:20 ` Rik van Riel
2004-03-09 17:22 ` [lockup] Re: objrmap-core-1 (rmap removal for file mappings to avoid 4:4 in <=16G machines) Rik van Riel
2004-03-09 17:56 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-09 15:59 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-09 16:07 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-09 16:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-09 16:39 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-09 19:33 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-09 16:39 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-09 15:41 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-15 19:47 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-03-15 22:00 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-16 7:39 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-03-16 13:50 ` Andrea Arcangeli
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2004-03-09 17:40 Bond, Andrew
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