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From: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>
To: Ray Bryant <raybry@sgi.com>
Cc: lse-tech@lists.sourceforge.net,
	"linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org" <linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Hugetlbpages in very large memory machines.......
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 19:55:11 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040313035511.GZ655@holomorphy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <40528383.10305@sgi.com>

On Fri, Mar 12, 2004 at 09:44:03PM -0600, Ray Bryant wrote:
> We've run into a scaling problem using hugetlbpages in very large memory 
> machines, e. g. machines with 1TB or more of main memory.  The problem is 
> that hugetlbpage pages are not faulted in, rather they are zeroed and 
> mapped in in by hugetlb_prefault() (at least on ia64), which is called in 
> response to the user's mmap() request.  The net is that all of the hugetlb 
> pages end up being allocated and zeroed by a single thread, and if most of 
> the machine's memory is allocated to hugetlb pages, and there is 1 TB or 
> more of main memory, zeroing and allocating all of those pages can take a 
> long time (500 s or more).
> We've looked at allocating and zeroing hugetlbpages at fault time, which 
> would at least allow multiple processors to be thrown at the problem.  
> Question is, has anyone else been working on
> this problem and might they have prototype code they could share with us?

This actually is largely a question of architecture-dependent code, so
the answer will depend on whether your architecture matches those of the
others who have had a need to arrange this.

Basically, all you really need to do is to check the vma and call either
a hugetlb-specific fault handler or handle_mm_fault() depending on whether
hugetlb is configured. Once you've gotten that far, it's only a question
of implementing the methods to work together properly when driven by
upper layers.

The reason why this wasn't done up-front was that there wasn't a
demonstrable need to do so. The issue you're citing is exactly the kind
of demonstration needed to motivate its inclusion.


-- wli

  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-03-13  3:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-03-13  3:44 Hugetlbpages in very large memory machines Ray Bryant
2004-03-13  3:48 ` Andi Kleen
2004-03-13  5:49   ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-13 16:10     ` [Lse-tech] " Andi Kleen
2004-03-14  0:05       ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-14  5:22         ` Peter Chubb
     [not found]     ` <844231526.20040313030948@adinet.com.uy>
     [not found]       ` <20040313061232.GB655@holomorphy.com>
2004-03-13 16:32         ` Re[2]: " Luis Mirabal
2004-03-14  2:45   ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-14  4:06     ` [Lse-tech] " Anton Blanchard
2004-03-17 19:05       ` Andy Whitcroft
2004-03-18 20:25         ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-18 21:22           ` Stephen Smalley
2004-03-18 22:21             ` Andy Whitcroft
2004-03-23 17:30         ` Andy Whitcroft
2004-03-24 17:38           ` Andy Whitcroft
2004-03-14  8:38     ` Ray Bryant
2004-03-14  8:48       ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-14  8:57       ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-14  9:02         ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-14  9:07         ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-15  6:45         ` Ray Bryant
2004-03-15 23:54           ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-13  3:55 ` William Lee Irwin III [this message]
2004-03-13  4:56 ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2004-03-16  0:30   ` Nobuhiko Yoshida
2004-03-16  1:54     ` Andi Kleen
2004-03-16  2:32       ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2004-03-16  3:20         ` Hirokazu Takahashi
2004-03-16  3:15       ` Nobuhiko Yoshida
2004-04-01  9:10         ` Nobuhiko Yoshida
2004-03-15 15:28 ` jlnance
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-03-13  3:45 Ray Bryant

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