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From: Micha Feigin <michf@post.tau.ac.il>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: finding out the value of HZ from userspace
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 16:37:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040314143752.GE3829@luna.mooo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040313174929.32b6d259.akpm@osdl.org>

On Sat, Mar 13, 2004 at 05:49:29PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> Micha Feigin <michf@post.tau.ac.il> wrote:
> >
> >  > Wrong. Any such interface is supposed to convert automatically. Any
> >  > interface you can find that doesn't should be reported as a serious bug!
> >  > 
> > 
> >  Like I said, look at bdflush in 2.4 (this was fixed with the changed 2.6
> >  interface) and xfs proc interface in both 2.4 and 2.6.
> >  In light of your post then there is a serious bug.
> > 
> >  For example for bdflush age_buffer field (true for the other used fields
> >  also), no conversion:
> >  	bh->b_flushtime = jiffies + bdf_prm.b_un.age_buffer;
> 
> I doubt if there's any motivation to fix these things in 2.4.  If you change
> HZ in 2.4 you own both pieces.  (alpha has HZ=1024 in 2.4, so presumably
> bdflush tuning doesn't work right).
> 

There is for laptop mode which is now in the kernel so a generic startup
script can be written.

I will right a patch and post it in a new thread and see how it takes.

> In 2.6, the bdflush parameters do not exist.  They were replaced by
> /proc/sys/vm/*_centisecs, which are HZ-independent.
> 
> There are, I think, still some /proc tunables in 2.6 which do depend upon
> HZ and they should be found and fixed.  If the same tunables are present in
> 2.4 kernels then they should be converted to take centiseconds in 2.6, so
> 2.4-based tools continue to work correctly.
> 
> We have similar problems where /proc tunables are expressed in terms of
> "number of pages".  As PAGE_SIZE varies from 4096 to 65536 this is
> sometimes wrong.  Fixing this is more subtle.
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  reply	other threads:[~2004-03-14 14:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <michf@post.tau.ac.il>
2004-03-11 14:17 ` finding out the value of HZ from userspace Micha Feigin
2004-03-13 17:24   ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-03-13 19:34     ` John Reiser
2004-03-13 19:38       ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-03-13 22:14         ` Micha Feigin
2004-03-13 22:32           ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-03-14  1:05             ` Micha Feigin
2004-03-14  1:49               ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-14 14:37                 ` Micha Feigin [this message]
2004-03-16  0:28         ` Peter Williams
2004-03-16  6:33           ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-03-16 23:38             ` Peter Williams
2004-03-20 10:22               ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-03-20 11:28                 ` Stefan Smietanowski
2004-03-20 11:41                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-03-20 23:58                     ` Peter Williams
2004-03-21  1:09                       ` Tim Schmielau
2004-03-21  1:30                         ` Peter Williams
2004-03-21  8:00                   ` Kai Henningsen
2004-03-21 10:32                     ` Stefan Smietanowski
2004-03-22 22:34                   ` Micha Feigin
2004-03-22 23:04                     ` Peter Williams
2004-03-25 17:40                       ` Jamie Lokier
2004-03-25 23:22                         ` Peter Williams
2004-03-27 13:31                           ` Jamie Lokier
2004-03-27 23:52                             ` Peter Williams
2004-03-28 12:16                               ` Jamie Lokier
2004-03-27 21:11                       ` Micha Feigin
2004-03-20 23:26                 ` Peter Williams
2004-03-13 21:19     ` tabris
2004-03-13 22:10     ` Micha Feigin
2004-03-13 22:41       ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-03-14  1:07         ` Micha Feigin
2004-03-14 18:26         ` John Reiser
2004-03-14  2:45   ` Horst von Brand
2004-03-14 14:39     ` Micha Feigin
2004-03-15  8:17     ` Jamie Lokier
2004-03-16 18:16       ` Mark Gross
2004-03-15 10:13     ` Richard Curnow
     [not found]   ` <200403161757.48786.mgross@linux.intel.com>
     [not found]     ` <20040317023059.GD19564@mail.shareable.org>
2004-03-17 16:48       ` Call for HRT in 2.6 kernel was " Mark Gross
2004-03-17 20:07         ` Jamie Lokier
2004-03-17 21:25           ` Mark Gross
2004-03-18  1:19           ` Karim Yaghmour
2004-03-18 11:56             ` Jamie Lokier
2004-03-18 15:23               ` Karim Yaghmour
2004-03-21  1:55                 ` Erik Andersen
2004-03-23 22:35                   ` Karim Yaghmour
     [not found] <1zkOe-Uc-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <1zl7M-1eJ-43@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <1zn9p-3mW-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <1znj5-3wM-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]       ` <1AaWr-655-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
2004-03-16  2:27         ` Andi Kleen
2004-03-16  5:53           ` Peter Williams
2004-03-16  6:16             ` Andi Kleen
2004-03-16 23:15               ` Peter Williams
2004-03-16 23:56                 ` Andi Kleen
2004-03-17  0:15                   ` Peter Williams
2004-03-16  9:16             ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2004-03-16 23:45               ` Peter Williams
2004-03-16 16:14 Albert Cahalan
2004-03-16 17:22 ` Richard Curnow
2004-03-20  9:56 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-03-20 14:54   ` Albert Cahalan
2004-03-20 23:58     ` Peter Williams
2004-03-31 21:40       ` Randy.Dunlap
2004-03-31 23:46         ` Albert Cahalan
2004-04-01 15:54           ` Jamie Lokier
2004-04-01 16:01             ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-04-01 16:30               ` Jamie Lokier
2004-04-01 16:50                 ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-04-01 17:01                   ` Jamie Lokier
2004-04-01 21:27                   ` Michael Buesch
2004-04-02  0:16                   ` Peter Williams
2004-04-02  0:07                 ` Peter Williams
2004-04-02  0:39                   ` Jamie Lokier
2004-04-02  1:44                     ` Peter Williams
2004-04-02 18:28                       ` Tim Bird
2004-04-02 22:05                         ` Peter Williams
2004-04-01 16:12             ` Albert Cahalan

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