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From: Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@sgi.com>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Martin Hicks <mort@wildopensource.com>, greg@kroah.com
Subject: Re: Exporting physical topology information
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2004 09:44:38 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200403180944.38760.jbarnes@sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040317213714.GD23195@localhost>

On Wednesday 17 March 2004 1:37 pm, Martin Hicks wrote:
> I'm not proposing that we build an entire physical topology tree in
> sysfs, but just providing an attribute file.  The two most obvious
> examples of where this would be useful is for nodes and pci busses.  The
> Altix platform is a modular system with CPU bricks and IO bricks.  We
> currently have no method for locating where "node0" is, nor do we have a
> method for locating pci bus 0000:20, for example.

I'm curious how other arches deal with this too.  Like on ppc64 when
you want to remove a CPU or set of CPUs, you have to bring it (or all
of the cores on a given module) down via software, then go into the
lab and find the module to pull it out.  Is there a mapping somewhere
that the user is expected to use?  A hypervisor call of some sort to
make some lights blink?

> If we could physically locate a PCI bus, then it would be much easier
> to (for example) locate our defective SCSI disk that is target4 on the
> SCSI controller that is on pci bus 0000:20.

This seems like one of the main uses--find components that went bad.
Physically locating a CPU, DIMM, PCI board, or disk would all be
easier if we provided some sort of physical identifier and
logical->physical mapping information.  On IRIX, we actually expose
the whole physical hierarchy of the system in /hw.  One of the
problems with that approach is that everytime a new system
configuration is released the kernel has to be updated to know about
it, resulting in /hw paths that change over time, and from system to
system...

Jesse


  reply	other threads:[~2004-03-18 17:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-03-17 21:37 Exporting physical topology information Martin Hicks
2004-03-18 17:44 ` Jesse Barnes [this message]
2004-03-18 23:21 ` Greg KH
2004-03-19 17:48   ` Martin Hicks
2004-03-19 17:57     ` Greg KH
2004-03-19 17:51   ` Jesse Barnes
2004-03-19 17:59     ` Greg KH
2004-03-19 18:53       ` Jesse Barnes
2004-05-07 20:13         ` Jesse Barnes
2004-05-07 22:38           ` Greg KH

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