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From: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: can device drivers return non-ram via vm_ops->nopage?
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 18:56:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040320175652.GC9009@dualathlon.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0403200937500.1106@ppc970.osdl.org>

On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 09:39:51AM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> 
> On Sat, 20 Mar 2004, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> >
> > The only bugreport I've got so far for the latest anon_vma code is from
> > Jens, and it's a device driver bug in my opinion, but I'd like to have a
> > definitive confirmation from you about the ->nopage API.
> 
> I'd say that this is definitely a driver bug.
> 
> If a driver wants to map non-RAM pages, that's perfectly ok, but it MUST 
> NOT happen through "nopage()". The driver should map them with 
> "remap_page_range()", and thus never take a page fault for such pages at 
> all.
> 
> There is no reason to ever lazily map non-RAM pages - clearly they aren't 
> using any "real memory", so there is no reason to not fill the page tables 
> at mmap() time.
> 
> In other words, the driver is horribly broken.

thanks for the clarification.

At the moment I'm not sure anymore if this was non-ram or a
VM_FAULT_SIGBUS because I noticed I was doing BUG_ON(!pfn_valid)
_before_ checking new_page == VM_FAULT_SIGBUS. Though my theory about
do_no_page working fine with non-ram page_t with >=128m machines up to
2.6.4 still holds, and it's not obvious that Jens triggered a SIGBUS
either.

  reply	other threads:[~2004-03-20 17:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-03-20 13:30 can device drivers return non-ram via vm_ops->nopage? Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-20 14:40 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-20 15:06   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-20 15:27     ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-20 15:44     ` Russell King
2004-03-20 15:57       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-20 16:15         ` Russell King
2004-03-20 16:25           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-20 16:57             ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-20 17:48             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-20 19:03               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-20 15:58       ` Jaroslav Kysela
2004-03-20 16:09         ` Russell King
2004-03-20 19:44           ` Jaroslav Kysela
2004-03-20 22:23             ` Russell King
2004-03-20 22:45               ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-20 23:54                 ` Russell King
2004-03-21  0:22                   ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-03-22  4:46                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-03-22 18:23                       ` Richard Curnow
2004-03-21  0:23                   ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-21  9:52                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-03-21 10:39                   ` Jaroslav Kysela
2004-03-22  4:43             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-03-20 20:13     ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-20 20:28       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-20 20:50       ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-20 22:26         ` Russell King
2004-03-20 22:45           ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-21 20:45             ` David Woodhouse
2004-03-21 20:49               ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-03-21 20:57                 ` David Woodhouse
2004-03-21 21:53                   ` Linus Torvalds
2004-03-21 22:17                     ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-21 22:23                     ` David Woodhouse
2004-03-21 22:23                     ` Russell King
2004-03-21 22:34                       ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-21 22:42                         ` David Woodhouse
2004-03-21 23:06                           ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-21 22:51                         ` Russell King
2004-03-21 23:09                           ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-21 23:11                           ` Linus Torvalds
2004-03-21 23:22                             ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-21 23:51                               ` Linus Torvalds
2004-03-21 23:58                                 ` Russell King
2004-03-22  0:34                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-22  3:05                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2004-03-23 17:59                                   ` Andy Whitcroft
2004-03-23 17:58                                     ` David Woodhouse
2004-03-23 18:11                                     ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-22  0:02                                 ` David Woodhouse
2004-03-22  3:28                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2004-03-22  0:10                                 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-22  0:20                                   ` Russell King
2004-03-22  0:33                                     ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-22  4:57                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-03-21 23:45                             ` Russell King
2004-03-22  0:23                               ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-22  0:29                                 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-22  1:28                                   ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-22  6:36           ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-20 17:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-03-20 17:56   ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2004-03-20 18:22   ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-21  3:13   ` Chris Wedgwood
2004-03-21  6:23     ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-03-21  7:00       ` Chris Wedgwood

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