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From: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>
To: rmk@arm.linux.org.uk, Jaroslav Kysela <perex@suse.cz>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: can device drivers return non-ram via vm_ops->nopage?
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 16:23:25 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040321002325.GS2045@holomorphy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040320235445.B24744@flint.arm.linux.org.uk>

On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 11:54:45PM +0000, Russell King wrote:
> The issues are:
> 1. ALSA wants to mmap the buffer used to transfer data to/from the
>    card into user space.  This buffer may be direct-mapped RAM,
>    memory allocated via dma_alloc_coherent(), an on-device buffer,
>    or anything else.
>    The user space mapping must likewise be DMA-coherent.
>    Currently, ALSA just does virt_to_page() on whatever address it
>    feels like in its nopage() function, which is obviously not
>    acceptable for two out of the three specific cases above.
> 2. ALSA wants to _coherently_ share data between the kernel-side
>    drivers, and user space ALSA library, mainly the DMA buffer
>    head/tail pointers so both kernel space and user space knows
>    when the buffer is full/empty.

Okay, so we've got these pinned down. So I've got two small ideas
(I mentioned them earlier, but maybe vger dropped the message):

(a) I think prefaulting should work for that in general, though the API
doesn't fit the extra things needed for e.g. DMA. Is there some way we
could extend remap_area_pages() (or provide an alternative interface to
similar functionality with the missing pieces included) to do the extra
things needed to make the coherency and/or DMA (or whatever else is
missing) work?

(b) Alternatively, would dma_coherent_to_pfn() instead of
dma_coherent_to_page() and making ->nopage() return pfns help salvage
the method using non-cachable and/or dma-coherent page protections in
vma->vm_page_prot?


-- wli

  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-03-21  0:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-03-20 13:30 can device drivers return non-ram via vm_ops->nopage? Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-20 14:40 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-20 15:06   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-20 15:27     ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-20 15:44     ` Russell King
2004-03-20 15:57       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-20 16:15         ` Russell King
2004-03-20 16:25           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-20 16:57             ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-20 17:48             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-20 19:03               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-20 15:58       ` Jaroslav Kysela
2004-03-20 16:09         ` Russell King
2004-03-20 19:44           ` Jaroslav Kysela
2004-03-20 22:23             ` Russell King
2004-03-20 22:45               ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-20 23:54                 ` Russell King
2004-03-21  0:22                   ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-03-22  4:46                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-03-22 18:23                       ` Richard Curnow
2004-03-21  0:23                   ` William Lee Irwin III [this message]
2004-03-21  9:52                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-03-21 10:39                   ` Jaroslav Kysela
2004-03-22  4:43             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-03-20 20:13     ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-20 20:28       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-20 20:50       ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-20 22:26         ` Russell King
2004-03-20 22:45           ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-21 20:45             ` David Woodhouse
2004-03-21 20:49               ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-03-21 20:57                 ` David Woodhouse
2004-03-21 21:53                   ` Linus Torvalds
2004-03-21 22:17                     ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-21 22:23                     ` David Woodhouse
2004-03-21 22:23                     ` Russell King
2004-03-21 22:34                       ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-21 22:42                         ` David Woodhouse
2004-03-21 23:06                           ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-21 22:51                         ` Russell King
2004-03-21 23:09                           ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-21 23:11                           ` Linus Torvalds
2004-03-21 23:22                             ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-21 23:51                               ` Linus Torvalds
2004-03-21 23:58                                 ` Russell King
2004-03-22  0:34                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-22  3:05                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2004-03-23 17:59                                   ` Andy Whitcroft
2004-03-23 17:58                                     ` David Woodhouse
2004-03-23 18:11                                     ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-22  0:02                                 ` David Woodhouse
2004-03-22  3:28                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2004-03-22  0:10                                 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-22  0:20                                   ` Russell King
2004-03-22  0:33                                     ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-22  4:57                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-03-21 23:45                             ` Russell King
2004-03-22  0:23                               ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-22  0:29                                 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-22  1:28                                   ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-22  6:36           ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-20 17:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-03-20 17:56   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-20 18:22   ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-21  3:13   ` Chris Wedgwood
2004-03-21  6:23     ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-03-21  7:00       ` Chris Wedgwood

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