From: Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>
To: Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <B.Zolnierkiewicz@elka.pw.edu.pl>
Cc: Chris Mason <mason@suse.com>, Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>,
Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] barrier patch set
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 10:43:25 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040321094324.GC1627@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200403202116.57949.bzolnier@elka.pw.edu.pl>
On Sat, Mar 20 2004, Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote:
> On Saturday 20 of March 2004 18:10, Chris Mason wrote:
> > On Sat, 2004-03-20 at 12:05, Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote:
> > > On Saturday 20 of March 2004 17:32, Chris Mason wrote:
> > > > On Sat, 2004-03-20 at 11:23, Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote:
> > > > > > > - why are we doing pre-flush?
> > > >
> > > > The journaled filesystems need this. We need to make sure that before
> > > > we write the commit block for a transaction, all the previous log
> > > > blocks we're written are safely on media. Then we also need to make
> > > > sure the commit block is on media.
> > >
> > > For low-level driver it shouldn't really matter whether sectors to be
> > > written are the commit block for a transaction or the previous log blocks
> > > and in the current implementation it does matter.
> >
> > As Jens said, it depends on how you define barrier ;-) I define it as
> > this io will be written after all the previous io and before any later
> > io. It was originally written with scsi tags in mind as well, the FS
> > side was the same for both.
>
> Yes, thanks for explaining this.
>
> I took a quick look at fs/jbd/ and now I think I understand the way barriers
> currently work. I assume that SCSI handles barriers by ordered tags, right?
That's the idea, yes. Needs some SCSI error handling work though, to
always ensure correct ordering.
--
Jens Axboe
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-03-21 9:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-03-19 15:35 [PATCH] barrier patch set Jens Axboe
2004-03-19 16:30 ` Mika Penttilä
2004-03-19 18:16 ` Jens Axboe
2004-03-19 18:44 ` Mika Penttilä
2004-03-20 9:55 ` Jens Axboe
2004-03-19 16:34 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-19 18:19 ` Jens Axboe
2004-03-19 23:01 ` Matthias Andree
2004-03-20 0:02 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-03-20 1:48 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2004-03-20 2:13 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-03-20 2:53 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2004-03-20 16:03 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-03-20 11:36 ` Matthias Andree
2004-03-20 16:00 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-03-20 23:36 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2004-03-21 1:33 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-03-20 18:52 ` Helge Hafting
2004-03-22 11:15 ` Matthias Andree
2004-03-19 23:59 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-03-20 0:14 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-20 0:40 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-03-20 0:42 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-20 1:24 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-03-20 9:58 ` Jens Axboe
2004-03-20 10:12 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-20 10:19 ` Jens Axboe
2004-03-20 10:37 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-20 16:30 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-03-21 18:12 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-20 10:21 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-20 15:54 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-03-20 0:17 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-20 9:53 ` Jens Axboe
2004-03-20 16:23 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-03-20 16:27 ` Jens Axboe
2004-03-20 16:32 ` Chris Mason
2004-03-20 17:05 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-03-20 17:10 ` Chris Mason
2004-03-20 20:16 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-03-21 9:43 ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2004-03-30 16:04 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-03-30 19:19 ` Chris Mason
2004-03-30 21:50 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-03-30 22:13 ` Chris Mason
2004-03-31 14:03 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-03-31 14:27 ` Chris Mason
2004-03-31 18:28 ` Ric Wheeler
2004-03-30 22:21 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-30 22:36 ` Chris Wedgwood
2004-03-30 22:39 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-30 22:41 ` Chris Wedgwood
2004-03-30 22:40 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-03-30 22:38 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-31 14:08 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-03-31 14:21 ` Chris Mason
2004-03-31 21:26 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-31 22:09 ` Chris Mason
2004-03-31 21:27 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-19 16:48 ` Marc-Christian Petersen
2004-03-19 18:19 ` Jens Axboe
2004-03-22 11:09 ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-22 11:10 ` Jens Axboe
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