From: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
To: Dipankar Sarma <dipankar@in.ibm.com>
Cc: Arjan van de Ven <arjanv@redhat.com>,
tiwai@suse.de, Robert Love <rml@ximian.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] RCU for low latency (experimental)
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 13:50:44 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040323125044.GL22639@dualathlon.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040323124002.GH3676@in.ibm.com>
On Tue, Mar 23, 2004 at 06:10:02PM +0530, Dipankar Sarma wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 23, 2004 at 01:31:05PM +0100, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 23, 2004 at 11:35:06AM +0100, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> > >
> > > > Reduce bh processing time of rcu callbacks by using tunable per-cpu
> > > > krcud daemeons.
> > >
> > > why not just use work queues ?
> >
> > I don't know if work queues are scheduler friendly, but definitely the
> > rearming tasklets are. Running a dozen callbacks per pass and queueing
> > any remining work to a rearming tasklet should fix it.
>
> One problem that likely happen here is that under heavy interrupt
> load, large number of softirqs still starve out user processes.
Disagree, run 1 callback per tasklet and then you will not measure the
cost of this callback compared to the cost of talking to the hardware
entering/exiting kernel etc...
> In my DoS testing setup, I see that limiting RCU softirqs
> and re-arming tasklets has no effect on user process starvation.
in an irq flood load that stalls userspace anyways it's ok to spread the
callback load into the irqs, 10 tasklets and in turn 10 callbacks per
irqs or so. That load isn't scheduler friendly anyways.
the one property you need is not to be RT like eventd, to be scheduler
friendly, but guaranteed to make progress too and that's what softirqs
can give you and that's why I used only softirqs in my rcu_poll
patches too ;).
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-03-23 12:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-03-23 10:17 [PATCH] RCU for low latency (experimental) Dipankar Sarma
2004-03-23 10:25 ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-23 10:41 ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-03-23 10:35 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-03-23 10:45 ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-03-23 12:31 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-23 12:40 ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-03-23 12:50 ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2004-03-24 17:26 ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-03-24 17:51 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-24 20:02 ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-03-24 23:36 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-25 0:43 ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-03-24 21:39 ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-03-24 22:53 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-24 23:11 ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-03-24 23:34 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-24 23:46 ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-03-24 23:51 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-28 16:53 ` Takashi Iwai
2004-03-28 17:20 ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-03-28 17:28 ` Takashi Iwai
2004-03-29 10:43 ` Takashi Iwai
2004-03-29 12:20 ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-03-23 12:40 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-03-23 12:29 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-23 12:34 ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-03-23 12:46 ` Andrea Arcangeli
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