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From: Jakub Jelinek <jakub@redhat.com>
To: davidm@hpl.hp.com
Cc: John Reiser <jreiser@BitWagon.com>,
	Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Non-Exec stack patches
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 12:24:54 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040324172454.GP31589@devserv.devel.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <16481.49534.124281.434663@napali.hpl.hp.com>

On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 09:12:30AM -0800, David Mosberger wrote:
>   David> That's why there is mprotect().
> 
>   John> But mprotect() costs enough (hundreds of cycles) to be a
>   John> significant burden in some cases.  Generating code to a stack
>   John> region that is inherently executable is inexpensive (even
>   John> allowing for restrictive alignment and avoiding I/D cache
>   John> conflicts), is thread safe, is async-signal safe, and takes
>   John> less work than other alternatives.  Yes, the "black hats" do
>   John> this; so do the "white hats."  Please do not increase the
>   John> minimum cost for applications that want generate-and-execute
>   John> on the stack at upredictable high frequency.
> 
> Huh?  Only one mprotect() call is needed to make the entire stack
> executable.

Nope.  Think about multithreaded apps.  Furthermore, getting the exact
extents of the particular stack is difficult to find for applications,
but e.g. the threading library has to know such things.

	Jakub

  reply	other threads:[~2004-03-24 17:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-03-23 23:12 Non-Exec stack patches Kurt Garloff
2004-03-23 23:22 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-23 23:49 ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-24  0:21   ` Kurt Garloff
2004-03-24  0:38     ` David Mosberger
2004-03-24  1:20       ` Ulrich Drepper
2004-03-24  1:41         ` David Mosberger
2004-03-24  2:01           ` Ulrich Drepper
2004-03-24  7:09             ` David Mosberger
2004-03-24  7:00           ` Jakub Jelinek
2004-03-24  7:16             ` David Mosberger
2004-03-24  7:28               ` Jakub Jelinek
2004-03-24  7:45                 ` David Mosberger
2004-03-24 16:29                   ` John Reiser
2004-03-24 17:12                     ` David Mosberger
2004-03-24 17:24                       ` Jakub Jelinek [this message]
2004-03-24 18:01                         ` David Mosberger
2004-03-24 19:02                       ` John Reiser
2004-03-24 19:18                         ` David Mosberger
2004-03-24  0:41     ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-24  0:41       ` Ingo Molnar
2004-03-24 10:53       ` Kurt Garloff
     [not found] <1D3lO-3dh-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <1D3YZ-3Gl-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
2004-03-24  6:01   ` Andi Kleen
2004-03-24 10:23     ` Stefan Smietanowski
2004-03-24 11:27       ` Andi Kleen
2004-03-24 22:03         ` Kurt Garloff
     [not found] <20040324002149.GT4677@tpkurt.garloff.de.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found] ` <16480.55450.730214.175997@napali.hpl.hp.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]   ` <4060E24C.9000507@redhat.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]     ` <16480.59229.808025.231875@napali.hpl.hp.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]       ` <20040324070020.GI31589@devserv.devel.redhat.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]         ` <16481.13780.673796.20976@napali.hpl.hp.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]           ` <20040324072840.GK31589@devserv.devel.redhat.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]             ` <16481.15493.591464.867776@napali.hpl.hp.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]               ` <4061B764.5070008@BitWagon.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]                 ` <16481.49534.124281.434663@napali.hpl.hp.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]                   ` <20040324172454.GP31589@devserv.devel.redhat.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2004-03-24 17:49                     ` Andi Kleen
2004-03-24 17:54                       ` Jakub Jelinek
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-04-14  7:28 Siddha, Suresh B
2004-04-14  8:23 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-04-14  9:47 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-04-14 18:30   ` Kurt Garloff
2004-04-14 20:54     ` Jeff Dike
2004-04-14  8:45 Siddha, Suresh B
2004-04-14  9:38 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-04-14 19:14 Siddha, Suresh B

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