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From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: Paul Eggert <eggert@CS.UCLA.EDU>
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, bug-coreutils@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Linux 2.6 nanosecond time stamp weirdness breaks GCC build
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 17:23:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040402162338.GB32483@mail.shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87wu4yohtp.fsf@penguin.cs.ucla.edu>

Paul Eggert wrote:
> > AFAIK there is no way to determine the stored resolution using file
> > operations alone.
> 
> Would it be easy to add one?  For example, we might extend pathconf so
> that pathconf(filename, _PC_MTIME_DELTA) returns the file system's
> mtime stamp resolution in nanoseconds.

pathconf() and fpathconf() are the obvious POSIXy interfaces for it.

Other possibilities are getxattr(), lgetxattr() and fgetxattr().

The only thing I don't like is that some cacheing algorithms will need
to make 2 system calls for each file being checked, instead of 1.  I
see no way around that, though.  At least the attribute approach would
allow all three (different) delta values to be read in one call (listxattr).

Is there a de facto standard interface used by another OS for this?

> I write "mtime" because I understand that some Microsoft file systems
> use different resolutions for mtime versus ctime versus atime, and
> mtime resolution is all that I need for now.

I didn't know that, thanks.

> Also, the NFSv3 protocol supports a delta quantity that tells the
> NFS client the mtime resolution on the NFS server, so if you assume
> NFSv3 or better the time stamp resolution is known for remote
> servers too.

Nice!

-- Jamie

  reply	other threads:[~2004-04-02 16:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-04-01 19:28 Linux 2.6 nanosecond time stamp weirdness breaks GCC build Ulrich Weigand
2004-04-01 20:09 ` Andi Kleen
2004-04-01 20:39   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-04-01 20:46     ` Andi Kleen
2004-04-01 21:01       ` Ulrich Weigand
2004-04-01 21:44         ` Andi Kleen
2004-04-01 22:39     ` Joe Buck
2004-04-01 22:44       ` Paul Jarc
2004-04-01 22:48       ` Ulrich Weigand
2004-04-01 23:58         ` Joe Buck
2004-04-02  0:13           ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-04-02  0:02   ` Jamie Lokier
2004-04-02  0:35   ` Paul Eggert
2004-04-02  1:14     ` Jamie Lokier
2004-04-02  7:57       ` James H. Cloos Jr.
2004-04-02  9:22       ` Paul Eggert
2004-04-02 16:23         ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2004-04-02 20:45           ` Paul Eggert
2004-04-02 21:07             ` Jamie Lokier
2004-04-02 21:56               ` Paul Eggert
2004-04-03  4:59       ` Andrew Pimlott
2004-04-02  0:37   ` Andrew Morton
2004-06-07 16:03     ` Jörn Engel
2004-04-01 21:13 ` Janis Johnson
2004-04-01 21:41   ` Ulrich Weigand
2004-04-02  0:30   ` Alan Modra
2004-04-02  9:05 ` P
2004-04-02 17:27 ` Alexandre Oliva
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-04-01 20:51 Michael Elizabeth Chastain

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