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From: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: hugh@veritas.com, torvalds@osdl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: anon-vma (and now filebacked-mappings too) mprotect vma merging [Re:    2.6.5-rc2-aa vma merging]
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2004 03:55:59 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040404015559.GU2307@dualathlon.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040403174312.16e4537d.akpm@osdl.org>

On Sat, Apr 03, 2004 at 05:43:12PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de> wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 03, 2004 at 05:13:58PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > > That change was made for scheduling latency reasons, mainly due to huge
> > > pagetable walks in zap_page_range():
> > > 
> > >     i_shared_lock is held for a very long time during vmtruncate() and
> > >     causes high scheduling latencies when truncating a file which is
> > >     mmapped.  I've seen 100 milliseconds.
> > > 
> > >     So turn it into a semaphore.  It nests inside mmap_sem.  This
> > >     change is also needed by the shared pagetable patch, which needs to
> > >     unshare pte's on the vmtruncate path - lots of pagetable pages need to
> > >     be allocated and they are using __GFP_WAIT.
> > > 
> > > If we no longer hold that lock during pte takedown then sure, it would
> > > be better if we had a spinlock in there.
> > 
> > agreed, vmtruncate may still be very costly due the pte scan, so
> > I was probably wrong about not needing the semaphore anymore with
> > prio-tree (I was too objrmap centric, and after all objrmap with the
> > trylocks threats it like a spinlock anyways), though the semaphore
> > cannot help the latency of the non-contention case (I mean with preempt
> > disabled), that seem to have room for improvements with a cond_sched()
> > before returning from invalidate_mmap_range_list not present yet.
> 
> <looks>

ok so it's implemented already, actually w/o prio-tree you'd waste some
cpu w/o schedule points if all vmas are out of range, with prio-tree
that's fixed.

> 
> Actually I was a bit harsh to the !CONFIG_PREEMPT case in unmap_vmas():
> 
> /* No preempt: go for the best straight-line efficiency */
> #if !defined(CONFIG_PREEMPT)
> #define ZAP_BLOCK_SIZE	(~(0UL))
> #endif
> 
> We should probably make that 1024*PAGE_SIZE or something like that.

agreed, more specifically we shouldn't differentiate the preempt from
non-preempt case, I'd suggest removing those CONFIG_PREEMPT there, it's
a misconception to think people disabling preempt cares about worst case
latencies less than people enabling preempt, infact the people disabling
preempt _only_ cares about the worst case latency ;)

      reply	other threads:[~2004-04-04  1:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.44.0403291957240.19124-100000@localhost.localdomain>
2004-03-29 19:45 ` 2.6.5-rc2-aa vma merging Hugh Dickins
2004-04-02 11:34   ` Hugh Dickins
2004-04-02 15:35     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-04-03  1:26       ` anon-vma (and now filebacked-mappings too) mprotect vma merging [Re: 2.6.5-rc2-aa vma merging] Andrea Arcangeli
2004-04-03 17:06         ` Hugh Dickins
2004-04-03 17:24           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-04-03 18:46             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-04-03 19:29               ` Hugh Dickins
2004-04-04  1:01                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-04-04  1:13                   ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-04  1:32                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-04-04  1:43                       ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-04  1:55                         ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]

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