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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
To: Paul Eggert <eggert@CS.UCLA.EDU>
Cc: adi@hexapodia.org, bug-coreutils@gnu.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: dd PATCH: add conv=direct
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 14:06:28 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040407140628.72c4892e.akpm@osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87vfkbms7s.fsf@penguin.cs.ucla.edu>

Paul Eggert <eggert@CS.UCLA.EDU> wrote:
>
> Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org> writes:
> 
> > In 2.6 we do the check at open() and fcntl() time.  In 2.4 we don't
> > fail until the actual I/O attempt.
> 
> This raises the issue of what "dd conv=direct" should do in 2.4
> kernels.  I propose that it should report an error and exit, when the
> write fails,

And when the read fails.

> since conv=direct can't be implemented.  The basic idea
> is that on systems that lack direct I/O, conv=direct should fail.

I think that's best.  It's a bit user-unfriendly, but a silent fallback is
misleading.

It might be acceptable to print a warning, then fall back.

> Another issue with this patch: in Solaris, direct I/O is done by
> invoking directio(DIRECTIO_ON); see
> <http://docs.sun.com/db/doc/816-0213/6m6ne37so?q=directio&a=view>.
> Is Solaris direct I/O a direct analog to Linux direct I/O, or are
> there subtle differences in semantics that should be made visible to
> the users of GNU "dd"?

solaris directio(DIRECTIO_ON) is a hint only.  If the system cannot perform
the uncached zerocopy then it will fall back to buffered IO.  Solaris will
perform direct-IO "when the application's buffer is aligned on a two-byte
(short) boundary, the offset into the file is on a device sector boundary,
and the size of the operation is a multiple of device sectors."


On Linux you set direct-io with open(O_DIRECT) or fcntl(F_SETFL, O_DIRECT).
If the filesystem doesn't support direct-io we will fail the open/fcntl
attempt up-front in 2.6 only.

If O_DIRECT was successfully set and the IO is not correctly aligned Linux
will fail the relevant I/O attempt.  Alignment requirements are:

2.4: page aligned on-disk and in-memory

2.6: device sector aligned on-disk and in-memory.

I'd recomment that dd use getpagesize() alignment on-disk and in-memory.

  reply	other threads:[~2004-04-07 21:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-04-06 22:03 dd PATCH: add conv=direct Andy Isaacson
2004-04-07  0:33 ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-07 16:21   ` Bruce Allen
2004-04-07 16:42     ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-07 17:31   ` Andy Isaacson
2004-04-07 18:18     ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-07 19:24       ` Andy Isaacson
2004-04-07 19:34         ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-07 19:47           ` Andy Isaacson
2004-04-07 20:03             ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-07 20:43               ` Andy Isaacson
2004-04-07 21:00                 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-04-07 21:35                 ` Bruce Allen
2004-04-08  6:56                   ` Paul Eggert
2004-04-08 11:07                     ` Jim Meyering
2004-04-08 19:32                       ` Paul Eggert
2004-04-08 19:51                         ` Paul Jarc
2004-04-08 21:34                         ` Jim Meyering
2004-04-08 16:23                     ` Philippe Troin
2004-04-08 20:20                       ` dd patch to remove noctty Paul Eggert
2004-04-08 21:40                         ` Jim Meyering
2004-04-09  0:37             ` dd PATCH: add conv=direct Anton Blanchard
2004-04-09  1:42               ` Wim Coekaerts
2004-04-10 21:28                 ` Jim Meyering
2004-04-07 20:46       ` Paul Eggert
2004-04-07 21:06         ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2004-04-07 21:09         ` Andy Isaacson
2004-04-07 19:12     ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2004-04-07 20:14       ` Andy Isaacson
2004-04-07 22:02 ` Nathan Straz
2004-04-07 22:09   ` Andy Isaacson
2004-04-08 11:44     ` Miquel van Smoorenburg

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