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From: Sergiy Lozovsky <serge_lozovsky@yahoo.com>
To: Horst von Brand <vonbrand@inf.utfsm.cl>
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: kernel stack challenge
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 10:54:18 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040407175418.17681.qmail@web40503.mail.yahoo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200404070244.i372iKdd003670@eeyore.valparaiso.cl>


--- Horst von Brand <vonbrand@inf.utfsm.cl> wrote:
> Sergiy Lozovsky <serge_lozovsky@yahoo.com> said:
> > --- Timothy Miller <miller@techsource.com> wrote:
> > > Horst von Brand wrote:
> >            I would prefer to spend less time
> writing
> > actual code - this is what these high level
> languages
> > for. If performance would be most important -
> people
> > would do everything in Assembler, but they don't.
> I'd
> > better write a small Assembler subroutine which
> will
> > handle stack problems for me and benefit from
> using
> > the high level language after that.
> 
> And then there is the technology of _inventing_ a
> language tailored to the
> task at hand... even better than your list of
> high-level languages.

I started exactly with that. I found out shortly that
have no idea of functionality needed for such kind of
system. It was clear that requirments for this sytem
can change rapidly. Only general purpose language can
address this problem (if we want to save time of
development and introduction of new security models).

Example. Current security policies are 'static'. It
seems, that it would be nice to have 'dynamic'
policies (with support from security model). Now,
policy describes resources available for subsystem. It
may be useful to limit the sequence of access to
resources - 'behaviour' of subsystem. I'm not sure if
I want to implement that right away, but there is
commercial system which does exactly that already (it
was created later than VXE).

Serge.

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  reply	other threads:[~2004-04-07 17:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-04-04  6:48 kernel stack challenge Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-05  9:39 ` Helge Hafting
2004-04-05 17:05   ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-05 18:06     ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-05 17:59       ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-05 19:27         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-04-05 21:14           ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-05 20:09         ` John Stoffel
2004-04-05 20:54           ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-05 21:08             ` Chris Wright
2004-04-05 21:40               ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-05 21:53                 ` Chris Wright
2004-04-05 22:22                 ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-05 23:49                   ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-06 13:25                     ` Jesse Pollard
     [not found]                     ` <20040406132750$3d4e@grapevine.lcs.mit.edu>
     [not found]                       ` <mit.lcs.mail.linux-kernel/20040406132750$3d4e@grapevine.lcs.mit.edu>
2004-04-06 16:40                         ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2004-04-06 19:10                           ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-06 20:53                             ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2004-04-06 21:24                               ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-07 14:36                           ` Jesse Pollard
2004-04-05 21:28             ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-05 21:21               ` Stephen Smoogen
2004-04-05 22:25                 ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-05 21:30               ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-05 21:45                 ` Kevin Fox
2004-04-05 21:59                 ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-04-05 22:52                   ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-06  0:46                     ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-04-06  0:55                     ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-04-06  3:02                       ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-06  3:04                         ` Randy.Dunlap
2004-04-05 22:20                 ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-05 23:27                   ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-06 20:16                 ` Horst von Brand
2004-04-06 20:58                   ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-06 22:05                     ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-06 22:56                       ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-06 23:17                         ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-08 13:11                           ` Martin Waitz
2004-04-08 22:33                             ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-07  2:44                       ` Horst von Brand
2004-04-07 17:54                         ` Sergiy Lozovsky [this message]
2004-04-08  2:43                           ` Horst von Brand
2004-04-08  4:07                             ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-08  4:29                               ` Horst von Brand
2004-04-08 22:51                                 ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-08 15:44                               ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-04-08 22:22                                 ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-09 15:27                                   ` Jesse Pollard
2004-04-05 21:12         ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-06 13:32     ` Helge Hafting
2004-04-06 17:44       ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-07  1:02         ` Horst von Brand
2004-04-07  1:34           ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-07  8:57             ` David Weinehall
2004-04-07 13:38               ` Chris Friesen
2004-04-07 17:12                 ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-07 17:16               ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-07  2:30           ` viro
2004-04-06 18:33       ` Jamie Lokier
2004-04-06 18:51         ` Sergiy Lozovsky
     [not found] <1H9LV-5Jb-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
2004-04-04 11:27 ` Andi Kleen
2004-04-04 18:24   ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-04 18:38     ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
     [not found] <200404052043.i35KhDvS020176@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>
2004-04-05 21:06 ` Sergiy Lozovsky
     [not found] <200404052026.i35KQh5g004342@eeyore.valparaiso.cl>
2004-04-05 21:21 ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-06 20:01   ` Horst von Brand
     [not found] <200404061606.i36G6YLE003375@eeyore.valparaiso.cl>
2004-04-06 18:04 ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-06 18:28   ` John Stoffel
2004-04-06 18:48     ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-06 18:57   ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-04-06 21:15     ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-06 22:44       ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-06 22:57         ` viro
2004-04-06 23:32           ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-06 23:45             ` Robin Rosenberg
2004-04-07  2:25       ` Horst von Brand
     [not found] <200404061618.i36GIHgW003419@eeyore.valparaiso.cl>
2004-04-06 18:16 ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-06 20:01   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-04-06 21:38     ` Sergiy Lozovsky
2004-04-06 22:46       ` Timothy Miller
     [not found] <24DA9B48-8827-11D8-87A5-000A9585C204@able.es>
2004-04-07  0:27 ` Sergiy Lozovsky
     [not found] <58907794@toto.iv>
2004-04-07  4:29 ` Peter Chubb
     [not found] <20040409182517.330.qmail@web40508.mail.yahoo.com>
2004-04-10  4:17 ` Horst von Brand

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