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From: Marc Singer <elf@buici.com>
To: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, akpm@osdl.org, elf@buici.com
Subject: Re: vmscan.c heuristic adjustment for smaller systems
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 14:29:58 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040417212958.GA8722@flea> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040417193855.GP743@holomorphy.com>

On Sat, Apr 17, 2004 at 12:38:55PM -0700, William Lee Irwin III wrote:
> Marc Singer reported an issue where an embedded ARM system performed
> poorly due to page replacement potentially prematurely replacing
> mapped memory where there was very little mapped pagecache in use to
> begin with.
> 
> Marc Singer has results where this is an improvement, and hopefully can
> clarify as-needed. Help determining whether this policy change is an
> improvement for a broader variety of systems would be appreciated.

I have some numbers to clarify the 'improvement'.

Setup:
  ARM922 CPU, 200MHz, 32MiB RAM
  NFS mounted rootfs, tcp, hard, v3, 4K blocks
  Test application copies 41MiB file and prints the elapsed time

The two scenarios differ only in the setting of /proc/sys/vm/swappiness.

				 swappiness
			60 (default)		0
			------------		--------
elapsed time(s)		52.48			52.9
			53.13			52.91
			53.13			52.87
			52.53			53.03
			52.35			53.02
			
mean			52.72			52.94

I'd say that there is no statistically significant difference between
these sets of times.  However, after I've run the test program, I run
the command "ls -l /proc"

				 swappiness
			60 (default)		0
			------------		--------
elapsed time(s)		18			1
			30			1
			33			1
			
This is the problem.  Once RAM fills with IO buffers, the kernel's
tendency to evict mapped pages ruins interactive performance.

  reply	other threads:[~2004-04-17 21:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-04-17 19:38 vmscan.c heuristic adjustment for smaller systems William Lee Irwin III
2004-04-17 21:29 ` Marc Singer [this message]
2004-04-17 21:33   ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-04-17 21:52     ` Marc Singer
2004-04-18  1:06       ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-04-18  5:05         ` Marc Singer
2004-04-17 23:21   ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-17 23:30     ` Marc Singer
2004-04-17 23:51       ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-18  0:11         ` Trond Myklebust
2004-04-18  0:23         ` Marc Singer
2004-04-18  3:37           ` Nick Piggin
2004-04-18  4:17             ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-04-18  4:41               ` Nick Piggin
2004-04-18  5:10                 ` Marc Singer
2004-04-18  5:19                   ` Nick Piggin
2004-04-18  5:35                     ` Marc Singer
2004-04-18  5:41                       ` Nick Piggin
2004-04-18 23:44                         ` Marc Singer
2004-04-18  9:29           ` Russell King
2004-04-18  1:59         ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-04-18  3:53           ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-18  5:38             ` Marc Singer
2004-04-18  5:52               ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-18  6:15                 ` Marc Singer
2004-04-19  0:26                   ` Rik van Riel
2004-04-19  0:39                     ` Marc Singer

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