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From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: Arjan van de Ven <arjanv@redhat.com>
Cc: Sau Dan Lee <danlee@informatik.uni-freiburg.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Tuukka Toivonen <tuukkat@ee.oulu.fi>,
	b-gruber@gmx.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: /dev/psaux-Interface
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 12:18:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040419111831.GA13759@mail.shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1082372020.4691.9.camel@laptop.fenrus.com>

Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> well, it's the kernels job to abstract hardware. You don't also expose
> raw scsi and ide devices to userspace, you abstract them away and
> provide a uniform "block device" interface to userspace.

Not quite.  Both SCSI and IDE layers offer "generic" access for
sending commands to the device which the kernel doesn't understand.

> The input layer tries to do the same wrt HID devices and imo it makes
> sense. Why should userspace care if a mouse is attached to the USB port
> or via the USB->PS/2 connector thingy to the PS/2 port. Requiring
> different configuration for both cases, and potentially even requiring
> different userspace applications for each type make it sound like
> abstracting this away from userspace does have merit. 

I agree in this case: the touchpad should be handled by the input
layer, for uniformity if nothing else.

However, what happens when the thing connected to the PS/2 port isn't
a mouse or keyboard, just a strange device talking bytes?  With 2.4
kernels you could talk to it.

-- Jamie




  reply	other threads:[~2004-04-19 11:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <Pine.GSO.4.58.0402271451420.11281@stekt37>
2004-04-19  8:35 ` /dev/psaux-Interface Tuukka Toivonen
2004-04-19  8:52   ` /dev/psaux-Interface Andrew Morton
2004-04-19  9:53     ` /dev/psaux-Interface Kim Holviala
2004-04-19 10:16     ` /dev/psaux-Interface Sau Dan Lee
2004-04-19 10:53       ` /dev/psaux-Interface Arjan van de Ven
2004-04-19 11:18         ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2004-04-19 11:47           ` /dev/psaux-Interface Sau Dan Lee
2004-04-21 10:48         ` /dev/psaux-Interface Neil Brown
2004-04-21 11:24           ` /dev/psaux-Interface Sau Dan Lee
2004-04-21 11:52             ` /dev/psaux-Interface Tuukka Toivonen
2004-04-21 14:14               ` /dev/psaux-Interface Sau Dan Lee
2004-04-21 12:38             ` /dev/psaux-Interface Neil Brown
2004-04-21 14:21               ` /dev/psaux-Interface Sau Dan Lee
2004-04-20 12:56   ` /dev/psaux-Interface Dmitry Torokhov
2004-04-20 20:41     ` /dev/psaux-Interface Kim Holviala
     [not found]     ` <xb71xmhhmej.fsf@savona.informatik.uni-freiburg.de>
2004-04-21  6:51       ` /dev/psaux-Interface Dmitry Torokhov
2004-04-21  7:15         ` /dev/psaux-Interface Sau Dan Lee
2004-04-22  6:39           ` /dev/psaux-Interface Dmitry Torokhov
2004-04-22  7:06             ` /dev/psaux-Interface Sau Dan Lee
2004-04-22  7:23               ` /dev/psaux-Interface Dmitry Torokhov
2004-04-21  7:18 /dev/psaux-Interface Sau Dan Lee
2004-04-21  7:21 ` /dev/psaux-Interface Kim Holviala
2004-04-21  8:13   ` /dev/psaux-Interface Sau Dan Lee
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-04-19 13:50 /dev/psaux-Interface tabris
2004-02-27 11:45 /dev/psaux-Interface Bernhard Gruber
2004-02-27 20:19 ` /dev/psaux-Interface Bernhard Gruber

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