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From: Willy Tarreau <willy@w.ods.org>
To: Horst von Brand <vonbrand@inf.utfsm.cl>
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: File system compression, not at the block layer
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 09:29:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040425072918.GA21148@alpha.home.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200404250305.i3P355eF003826@pincoya.inf.utfsm.cl>

On Sat, Apr 24, 2004 at 11:05:05PM -0400, Horst von Brand wrote:
 
> >                             Haven't you noticed that drives with many
> > platters are always faster than their cousins with fewer platters ? And
> > I don't speak about access time, but about sequential reads.
> 
> Have you ever wondered how they squeeze 16 or more platters into that slim
> enclosure? If you take them apart, the question evaporates: There are 2 or
> 3 platters in them, no more. The "many platters" are an artifact of BIOS'
> "disk geometry" description.

I know, I was speaking about physical platters of course. Mark Hann told
me in private that he disagreed with me, so I checked recent disks 
(36, 73, 147 GB SCSI with 1, 2, 4 platters) and he was right, they have
exactly the same spec concerning speed. But I said that I remember the
times when I regularly did this test on disks that I was integrating about
7-8 years ago, they were 2.1, 4.3, 6.4 GB (1,2,3 platters), and I'm fairly
certain that the 1-platter performed at about 5 MB/s while the 6.4 was around
12 MB/s. BTW, the 9GB SCSI I have in my PC does about 28 MB/s for 1 platter,
while its 18 GB equivalent (2 platters) does about 51. So I think that what
I observed remained true for such capacities, but changed on bigger disks
because of mechanical constraints. Afterall, what's 18 GB now ? Less than
one twentieth of the biggest disk.

Anyway, this is off-topic, so that's my last post on LKML on the subject.

Regards,
Willy

  reply	other threads:[~2004-04-25  7:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-04-23 17:26 File system compression, not at the block layer Timothy Miller
2004-04-23 17:30 ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2004-04-23 17:41   ` Theodore Ts'o
2004-04-23 17:57     ` Jörn Engel
2004-04-23 18:14     ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-23 18:34       ` Paul Jackson
2004-04-23 20:14         ` Joel Jaeggli
2004-04-23 20:34           ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-04-23 20:44             ` Måns Rullgård
2004-04-23 20:59               ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-04-23 21:14                 ` Ben Greear
2004-04-23 21:25                   ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-24  4:58                     ` Ben Greear
2004-04-27 15:45                       ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-23 21:18                 ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-24  1:28                   ` Horst von Brand
2004-04-24  2:24                   ` Tom Vier
2004-04-24  7:36                     ` Willy Tarreau
2004-04-24 16:02                       ` Eric D. Mudama
2004-04-25  3:05                       ` Horst von Brand
2004-04-25  7:29                         ` Willy Tarreau [this message]
2004-04-25 19:50                           ` Eric D. Mudama
2004-04-27 15:43                     ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-28  0:29                       ` Tom Vier
2004-04-23 21:31             ` Joel Jaeggli
2004-04-23 22:20               ` Ian Stirling
2004-04-23 23:34             ` Paul Jackson
2004-04-27 15:42               ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-27 16:02                 ` Jörn Engel
2004-04-24  1:18             ` Horst von Brand
2004-04-26 10:22             ` Jörn Engel
2004-04-23 21:15           ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-23 21:36             ` Joel Jaeggli
2004-04-27 20:34     ` Pavel Machek
2004-04-28 22:57       ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-29  9:46         ` Jörn Engel
2004-04-29  9:52           ` Pavel Machek
2004-04-29 10:09             ` Jörn Engel
2004-04-29 10:19               ` Pavel Machek
2004-04-29 17:17             ` Tim Connors
2004-04-28  1:00 ` David Lang
2004-04-28 10:09   ` Jörn Engel
2004-04-28 10:21     ` Nikita Danilov

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