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From: Ville Herva <vherva@viasys.com>
To: Karim Yaghmour <karim@opersys.com>
Cc: ncunningham@linuxmail.org,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: What does tainting actually mean?
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 13:26:34 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040428102634.GU23361@viasys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <408F4658.9050109@opersys.com>

On Wed, Apr 28, 2004 at 01:51:20AM -0400, you [Karim Yaghmour] wrote:
> 
> Nigel Cunningham wrote:
> >What I mean is, how does it help to know that a kernel is tainted? When  
> >I'm working on Software Suspend and someone sends me an oops, I don't  
> >really care whether it's marked as tainted or not. For all I know, even 
> >if  it's not tainted, they may have thrown in half a dozen different 
> >patches  aside from Suspend, any one of which could be playing a role in 
> >the  appearance of the oops. It doesn't help me to know that the kernel 
> 
> The legal/moral implications of taint/binary-mods/etc. aside, I think it
> may be worth putting some thought into coming up with a way to identify
> which patches were applied to a kernel -- given the wide-spread use of this
> method to add/remove/amend kernel functionality. Maybe there should be a
> /proc/sys/kernel/patches file at runtime which would provide a list of
> applied patches and some characteristics/description? When patches are
> applied, there could then be a toplevel .patches file which all patch
> submitters/providers/distributors would be strongly encouraged or
> <form>insert your favorite coercive method or torture technique here</form>
> to amend as they add their code. At build time, the makefile could then
> use this file the generate some header used by the code printing out the
> /proc/sys/kernel/patches. At oops time, the content of this file would also
> be part of the dump.

It has been suggested before:

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&threadm=linux.kernel.20020312114234.GF128921%40niksula.cs.hut.fi&rnum=1&prev=/groups%3Fhl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26q%3D%2BRe%253A%2B%255Bmodule%252Fpatch%255D%2Boptional%2B%252Fproc%252Fpatches%2B%253F%253F%2B%26btnG%3DSearch

but it didn't exactly raise enormeous interest.


-- v -- 

v@iki.fi


  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-04-28 10:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-04-28  4:00 What does tainting actually mean? Nigel Cunningham
2004-04-28  4:27 ` Jurriaan
2004-04-28  4:30   ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-04-28  5:19     ` Chris Friesen
2004-04-28  5:18       ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-04-28 12:10         ` Theodore Ts'o
2004-04-28 12:48           ` Måns Rullgård
2004-04-28 13:04             ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2004-04-28 13:27               ` Måns Rullgård
2004-04-28 14:22                 ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2004-04-28 15:56           ` Joseph Pingenot
2004-04-28 16:01         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-05-03 12:45     ` Pavel Machek
2004-05-03 18:50       ` Stefan Smietanowski
2004-04-28  5:51 ` Karim Yaghmour
2004-04-28  6:51   ` Keith Duthie
2004-04-28 10:26   ` Ville Herva [this message]
2004-05-06 15:25 ` Anthony de Boer
     [not found] <04Apr28.020259edt.41801@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca>
2004-04-28  6:18 ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-04-28 10:37   ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz

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