From: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
To: Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>
Cc: brettspamacct@fastclick.com, jgarzik@pobox.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: ~500 megs cached yet 2.6.5 goes into swap hell
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 20:09:01 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040428200901.3fcb3cab.akpm@osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <16528.28485.996662.598051@cargo.ozlabs.ibm.com>
Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org> wrote:
>
> Andrew Morton writes:
>
> > OK, a bit of fiddling does indicate that if a file is present on both
> > client and server, and is modified on the client, the rsync client will
> > indeed touch the pagecache pages twice. Does this describe the files which
> > you're copying at all?
>
> The client/server thing is a bit misleading, what matters is the
> direction of the transfer. In the case I saw this morning, the G5 was
> the sender. In any case I was using the -W switch, which tells it not
> to use the rsync algorithm but just transfer the whole file. So I
> believe that rsync on the G5 side was just reading the file through
> once.
>
> I have also noticed similar behaviour after doing a bk pull on a
> kernel tree.
>
> The really strange thing is that the behaviour seems to get worse the
> more RAM you have. I haven't noticed any problem at all on my laptop
> with 768MB, only on the G5, which has 2.5GB. (The laptop is still on
> 2.6.2-rc3 though, so I will try a newer kernel on it.)
>
Is the laptop x86 or ppc? IIRC there were problems with the pte-referenced
handling on ppc? Or was it ppc64? It shouldn't make any difference in
this case I guess.
To investigate this sort of thing you're better off using just a local `dd'
to ascertain the pattern which is causing the problem. Keep things simple.
What happens if you do a 4G writeout with dd? Is there any swapout? There
shouldn't be much at all. If the big dd indeed does not cause swapout,
then what is different about rsync?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-04-29 3:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 128+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-04-28 21:27 ~500 megs cached yet 2.6.5 goes into swap hell Brett E.
2004-04-29 0:01 ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-29 0:10 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-04-29 0:21 ` Nick Piggin
2004-04-29 0:50 ` Wakko Warner
2004-04-29 0:53 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-04-29 0:54 ` Nick Piggin
2004-04-29 1:51 ` Tim Connors
2004-04-29 21:45 ` Denis Vlasenko
2004-04-29 0:58 ` Marc Singer
2004-04-29 3:48 ` Nick Piggin
2004-04-29 4:20 ` Marc Singer
2004-04-29 4:26 ` Nick Piggin
2004-04-29 14:49 ` Marc Singer
2004-04-30 4:08 ` Nick Piggin
2004-04-30 22:31 ` Marc Singer
2004-04-29 6:38 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-04-29 7:36 ` Russell King
2004-04-29 10:44 ` Nick Piggin
2004-04-29 11:04 ` Russell King
2004-04-29 14:52 ` Marc Singer
2004-04-29 20:01 ` Horst von Brand
2004-04-29 20:18 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-04-29 20:33 ` David B. Stevens
2004-04-29 22:42 ` Steve Youngs
2004-04-29 20:36 ` Paul Jackson
2004-04-29 21:19 ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-29 21:34 ` Paul Jackson
2004-04-29 21:57 ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-29 22:18 ` Paul Jackson
2004-04-30 0:04 ` Andy Isaacson
2004-04-30 0:32 ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-30 0:54 ` Paul Jackson
2004-04-30 5:38 ` Andy Isaacson
2004-04-30 6:00 ` Nick Piggin
2004-04-30 7:52 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-04-30 8:02 ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-30 8:09 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-05-06 13:08 ` Pavel Machek
2004-05-07 15:53 ` Hugh Dickins
2004-05-07 16:57 ` Pavel Machek
2004-05-07 17:30 ` Timothy Miller
2004-05-07 17:43 ` Hugh Dickins
2004-05-07 17:48 ` Mark Frazer
2004-05-12 17:52 ` Rob Landley
2004-05-17 20:16 ` Hugh Dickins
2004-04-29 21:38 ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-29 21:47 ` Paul Jackson
2004-04-29 22:18 ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-29 22:46 ` Paul Jackson
2004-04-29 23:08 ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-30 12:31 ` Bart Samwel
2004-04-30 15:35 ` Clay Haapala
2004-04-30 15:44 ` Bart Samwel
2004-04-30 22:11 ` Paul Jackson
2004-04-30 3:37 ` Tim Connors
2004-04-30 5:15 ` Nick Piggin
2004-04-30 6:20 ` Tim Connors
2004-04-30 6:34 ` Nick Piggin
2004-04-30 7:05 ` Tim Connors
2004-04-30 7:15 ` Nick Piggin
2004-04-30 9:18 ` Re[2]: " vda
2004-04-30 9:33 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-04-30 11:33 ` Denis Vlasenko
2004-04-30 16:19 ` Timothy Miller
2004-04-29 0:49 ` Brett E.
2004-04-29 1:00 ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-29 1:24 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-04-29 1:40 ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-29 1:47 ` Rik van Riel
2004-04-29 18:14 ` Adam Kropelin
2004-04-30 3:17 ` Tim Connors
2004-04-29 2:19 ` Tim Connors
2004-04-29 16:24 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-04-29 16:36 ` Chris Friesen
2004-04-29 16:56 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-04-29 1:30 ` Paul Mackerras
2004-04-29 1:31 ` Paul Mackerras
2004-04-29 1:53 ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-29 2:40 ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-29 2:58 ` Paul Mackerras
2004-04-29 3:09 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2004-04-29 3:14 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-04-29 6:12 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-04-29 6:22 ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-29 6:25 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-04-29 6:31 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-04-29 16:50 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-04-29 3:57 ` Nick Piggin
2004-04-29 14:29 ` Rik van Riel
2004-04-30 3:00 ` Nick Piggin
2004-04-30 12:50 ` Rik van Riel
2004-04-30 13:07 ` Nick Piggin
2004-04-30 13:18 ` Nikita Danilov
2004-04-30 13:39 ` Nick Piggin
2004-04-29 1:46 ` Rik van Riel
2004-04-29 1:57 ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-29 2:29 ` Marc Singer
2004-04-29 2:35 ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-29 3:10 ` Marc Singer
2004-04-29 3:19 ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-29 4:13 ` Marc Singer
2004-04-29 4:33 ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-29 14:45 ` Marc Singer
2004-04-29 16:51 ` Andy Isaacson
2004-04-29 20:42 ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-29 22:27 ` Andy Isaacson
2004-04-29 23:19 ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-30 0:14 ` Lincoln Dale
2004-04-29 8:02 ` Wichert Akkerman
2004-04-29 14:25 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-04-29 14:27 ` Wichert Akkerman
2004-04-29 2:41 ` Rik van Riel
2004-04-29 2:43 ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-29 1:41 ` Tim Connors
2004-04-29 9:43 ` Helge Hafting
2004-04-29 14:48 ` Marc Singer
2004-04-29 0:44 ` Brett E.
2004-04-29 1:13 ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-29 1:29 ` Brett E.
2004-04-29 18:05 ` Brett E.
2004-04-29 18:32 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-04-29 20:47 ` Brett E.
2004-04-29 0:04 ` Brett E.
2004-04-29 0:13 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-04-29 0:43 ` Nick Piggin
2004-04-29 13:51 ` Horst von Brand
2004-04-29 18:32 ` Brett E.
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