From: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
To: Ram Pai <linuxram@us.ibm.com>
Cc: nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au, alexeyk@mysql.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, axboe@suse.de
Subject: Re: Random file I/O regressions in 2.6
Date: Mon, 3 May 2004 13:57:19 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040503135719.423ded06.akpm@osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1083615727.7949.40.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Ram Pai <linuxram@us.ibm.com> wrote:
>
> > The place which needs attention is handle_ra_miss(). But first I'd like to
> > reacquaint myself with the intent behind the lazy-readahead patch. Was
> > never happy with the complexity and special-cases which that introduced.
>
> lazy-readahead has no role to play here.
Sure. But lazy-readahead is bolted on the side and is generally not to my
liking. I'd like to find a solution to the sysbench problem which also
solves the thing which lazy-readahead addressed.
> The readahead window got closed
> because the i/o pattern was totally random. My guess is multiple threads
> are generating 16k i/o on the same fd. In such a case the i/os can get
> interleaved and the readahead window size goes for a toss(which is
> expected behavior)
I don't think it's that. The app is doing well-aligned 16k reads and
writes. If we get enough pagecache hits on the reads, readahead turns
itself off (fair enough) but fails to turn itself on again.
The readahead logic _should_ be able to adapt to the fixed-sized I/Os and
issue correct-sized reads immediately after each seek. I _think_ this will
fix the problem which lazy-readahead addressed, but as usual we don't have
a rigorous description of that problem :(
> Well if this is infact the case: the question is
> 1. does the i/o pattern really has some sequentiality to
> deserve a readahead?
> 2. or should we ensure that the interleaved case be somehow
> handled, by including the size parameter?
>
> I know Nick has implied option (2) but I think from the readahead's
> point of view it is (1),
Readahead has got too complex and is getting band-aidy. I'd prefer to tear
it down and rethink things.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-05-03 20:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-05-02 19:57 Random file I/O regressions in 2.6 Alexey Kopytov
2004-05-03 11:14 ` Nick Piggin
2004-05-03 18:08 ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-03 20:22 ` Ram Pai
2004-05-03 20:57 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2004-05-03 21:37 ` Peter Zaitsev
2004-05-03 21:50 ` Ram Pai
2004-05-03 22:01 ` Peter Zaitsev
2004-05-03 21:59 ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-03 22:07 ` Ram Pai
2004-05-03 23:58 ` Nick Piggin
2004-05-04 0:10 ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-04 0:19 ` Nick Piggin
2004-05-04 0:50 ` Ram Pai
2004-05-04 6:29 ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-04 15:03 ` Ram Pai
2004-05-04 19:39 ` Ram Pai
2004-05-04 19:48 ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-04 19:58 ` Ram Pai
2004-05-04 21:51 ` Ram Pai
2004-05-04 22:29 ` Ram Pai
2004-05-04 23:01 ` Alexey Kopytov
2004-05-04 23:20 ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-05 22:04 ` Alexey Kopytov
2004-05-06 8:43 ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-06 18:13 ` Peter Zaitsev
2004-05-06 21:49 ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-06 23:49 ` Nick Piggin
2004-05-07 1:29 ` Peter Zaitsev
2004-05-10 19:50 ` Ram Pai
2004-05-10 20:21 ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-10 22:39 ` Ram Pai
2004-05-10 23:07 ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-11 20:51 ` Ram Pai
2004-05-11 21:17 ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-13 20:41 ` Ram Pai
2004-05-17 17:30 ` Random file I/O regressions in 2.6 [patch+results] Ram Pai
2004-05-20 1:06 ` Alexey Kopytov
2004-05-20 1:31 ` Ram Pai
2004-05-21 19:32 ` Alexey Kopytov
2004-05-20 5:49 ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-20 21:59 ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-20 22:23 ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-21 7:31 ` Nick Piggin
2004-05-21 7:50 ` Jens Axboe
2004-05-21 8:40 ` Nick Piggin
2004-05-21 8:56 ` Spam: " Andrew Morton
2004-05-21 22:24 ` Alexey Kopytov
2004-05-21 21:13 ` Alexey Kopytov
2004-05-26 4:43 ` Alexey Kopytov
2004-05-11 22:26 ` Random file I/O regressions in 2.6 Bill Davidsen
2004-05-04 1:15 ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-04 11:39 ` Nick Piggin
2004-05-04 8:27 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-05-04 8:47 ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-04 8:50 ` Arjan van de Ven
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