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From: Dipankar Sarma <dipankar@in.ibm.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
	manfred@colorfullife.com, davej@redhat.com, wli@holomorphy.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Maneesh Soni <maneesh@in.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: dentry bloat.
Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 02:30:21 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040508210021.GC6383@in.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040508120148.1be96d66.akpm@osdl.org>

On Sat, May 08, 2004 at 12:01:48PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org> wrote:
> > Also, in your previous patch (which I'm not as convinced might be wrong), 
> > the d_qstr pointer removal makes me worry:
> > 
> > -       struct qstr * d_qstr;           /* quick str ptr used in lockless lookup and concurrent d_move */
> > 
> > I thought the point of d_qstr was that when we do the lockless lookup,
> > we're guaranteed to always see "stable storage" in the sense that when we
> > follow the d_qstr, we will always get a "char *" + "len" that match, and
> > we could never see a partial update (ie len points to the old one, and
> > "char *" points to the new one).
> 
> It looks that way.

Yes, that is exactly why d_qstr was introduced. The "len" and the
storage for the name is then a single update through d_qstr.

> 
> > In particular, think about the "d_compare(parent, qstr, name)" / 
> > "memcmp(qstr->name, str, len)" part - what if "len" doesn't match str, 
> > because a concurrent d_move() is updating them, and maybe we will compare 
> > past the end of kernel mapped memory or something?
> > 
> > (In other words, the "move_count" check should protect us from returning a 
> > wrong dentry, but I'd worry that we'd do something that could cause 
> > serious problems before we even get to the "move_count" check).
> > 
> > Hmm?

Yes, that is indeed why we had to have d_qstr.


> I think we can simply take ->d_lock a bit earlier in __d_lookup.  That will
> serialise against d_move(), fixing the problem which you mention, and also
> makes d_movecount go away.

Repeating some of the tests under ->d_lock is worth looking at, but
we have to be carefull about performance. ISTR, there was another
issue related to calling ->d_compare() under ->d_lock. I will dig
a little bit on this, or Maneesh may remember.

Thanks
Dipankar

      parent reply	other threads:[~2004-05-08 21:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20040506200027.GC26679@redhat.com>
     [not found] ` <20040506150944.126bb409.akpm@osdl.org>
     [not found]   ` <409B1511.6010500@colorfullife.com>
2004-05-08  8:23     ` dentry bloat Andrew Morton
2004-05-08  9:23       ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-08 10:11         ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-08 10:12           ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-08 10:28           ` viro
2004-05-08 10:41             ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-08 10:52             ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-08 10:31           ` Manfred Spraul
2004-05-08 17:28           ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-08 18:19             ` David S. Miller
2004-05-08 19:01             ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-08 19:13               ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-08 19:27                 ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-08 19:27                 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-08 20:42                   ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-05-08 20:55                     ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-08 21:19                       ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-05-09  0:10                         ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-09  2:55                           ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-09  3:12                             ` David S. Miller
2004-05-09  3:53                               ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-09 21:03                                 ` Matt Mackall
2004-05-10  8:27                                   ` Helge Hafting
2004-05-10  8:32                                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-05-10  9:46                                       ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-10 14:54                                         ` Matt Mackall
2004-05-10 16:26                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2004-05-10 18:34                                             ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-05-09  4:12                             ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-09  4:25                               ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-09  4:36                                 ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-09  5:14                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-09  7:36                                     ` Rodolfo Guluarte Hale
2004-05-09  9:10                                     ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2004-05-09  9:23                                       ` viro
2004-05-09 15:35                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-09 18:11                                         ` Matt Mackall
2004-05-09 22:08                                           ` Francois Romieu
2004-05-09 23:51                                           ` Paul Jackson
2004-05-10  7:17                                         ` Florian Weimer
2004-05-10 14:12                                         ` Rik van Riel
2004-05-09  4:43                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-09  7:28                     ` Manfred Spraul
2004-05-09 15:33                       ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-05-09 22:17                         ` viro
2004-05-09 22:27                           ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-11  5:26                             ` Maneesh Soni
2004-05-10 18:39                           ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-05-11  5:17                             ` Maneesh Soni
2004-05-08 20:13                 ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-10-06 12:58                   ` Maneesh Soni
2004-05-11 20:22                     ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-14 10:33                       ` Raghavan
2004-05-14 10:50                         ` Paul Jackson
2004-05-14 11:04                           ` Jens Axboe
2004-05-14 11:14                             ` Paul Jackson
2004-05-14 11:24                               ` Jens Axboe
2004-05-14 11:30                                 ` Paul Jackson
2004-05-14 11:24                               ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-05-14 11:18                         ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-05-14 14:44                           ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-08 21:00               ` Dipankar Sarma [this message]

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