From: viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk
To: John McCutchan <ttb@tentacle.dhs.org>
Cc: Chris Wedgwood <cw@f00f.org>,
nautilus-list@gnome.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC/PATCH] inotify -- a dnotify replacement
Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 13:46:47 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040511124647.GE17014@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1084278001.1225.9.camel@vertex>
On Tue, May 11, 2004 at 08:20:01AM -0400, John McCutchan wrote:
> Inotify will support watching a hierarchy. The reason it was not
> implemented yet is because the one app that I really care about is
> nautilus and the maintainer of it says he doesn't care.
How are you going to implement that?
> The big feature that inotify is trying to provide is not having to keep
> a file open (So that unmounting is not affected). I asked for some
> guidance from people more familiar with the kernel so that I can
> implement this feature, it requires changes made to the inode cache, and
> how unmounting is done.
Bzzert. First of all, on quite a few filesystems inumbers are stable
only when object is pinned down. What's more, if it's not pinned down
you've got nothing even remotely resembling a reliable way to tell if
two events had happened to the same object - inumbers can be reused.
Besides, your "doesn't pin down" is racy as hell - not to mention the
way you manage the lists, pretty much every function is an exploitable
hole. Hell, just take a look at your "find inode" stuff - you grab
superblock, find an inode by inumber (great idea, that - especially
since on a bunch of filesystems it will get you BUG() or equivalent)
then drop refernce to superblock (at which point it can be destroyed by
umount()) _and_ do iput() (which will do lovely, lovely things if that
umount did happen). Moreover, you return a pointer to inode, even
though there's nothing to hold it alive anymore. And dereference that
pointer later on, not caring if it had been freed/reused/whatever.
Overall: hopeless crap. And that's a direct result of your main feature -
it's really broken by design.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-05-11 12:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-05-10 1:35 [RFC/PATCH] inotify -- a dnotify replacement John McCutchan
2004-05-10 2:11 ` Chris Wedgwood
2004-05-10 22:17 ` John McCutchan
2004-05-10 22:31 ` Davide Libenzi
2004-05-10 22:41 ` John McCutchan
2004-05-10 22:52 ` Davide Libenzi
2004-05-10 23:10 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-05-10 23:42 ` Davide Libenzi
2004-05-11 4:11 ` Chris Wedgwood
2004-05-11 2:00 ` Ian Kent
2004-05-11 2:47 ` Chris Wedgwood
2004-05-11 11:52 ` nf
2004-05-11 12:17 ` Stephen Rothwell
2004-05-11 12:24 ` John McCutchan
[not found] ` <1084278605.3839.47.camel@carados.180sw.com>
[not found] ` <1084885604.4062.48.camel@lilota.lamp.priv>
[not found] ` <1085127066.20393.440.camel@localhost.localdomain>
2004-05-21 12:04 ` nf
2004-05-11 12:20 ` John McCutchan
2004-05-11 12:46 ` viro [this message]
2004-05-11 19:02 ` John McCutchan
2004-05-11 20:28 ` carbonated beverage
2004-05-11 21:28 ` John McCutchan
2004-05-11 15:02 ` Alexander Larsson
2004-05-11 21:41 ` Chris Wedgwood
2004-05-12 12:38 ` Jörn Engel
2004-05-13 15:36 ` raven
2004-05-13 19:04 ` Chris Wedgwood
2004-05-14 7:04 ` Ian Kent
2004-05-13 21:24 ` John McCutchan
2004-05-14 2:02 ` Ian Kent
2004-05-15 4:52 ` raven
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