From: Steven Cole <elenstev@mesatop.com>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
adi@bitmover.com, scole@lanl.gov, support@bitmover.com,
Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: 1352 NUL bytes at the end of a page? (was Re: Assertion `s && s->tree' failed: The saga continues.)
Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 09:28:21 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200405160928.22021.elenstev@mesatop.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040516052220.GU3044@dualathlon.random>
On Saturday 15 May 2004 11:22 pm, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> On Sat, May 15, 2004 at 09:52:50PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Sat, 15 May 2004, Steven Cole wrote:
> > >
> > > OK, will do. I ran the bk exerciser script for over an hour with 2.6.6-current
> > > and no CONFIG_PREEMPT and no errors. The script only reported one
> > > iteration finished, while I got it to do 36 iterations over several hours earlier
> > > today (with a 2.6.3-4mdk vendor kernel)
> >
> > Hmm.. Th ecurrent BK tree contains much of the anonvma stuff, so this
> > might actually be a serious VM performance regression. That could
> > effectively be hiding whatever problem you saw.
> >
> > Andrea: have you tested under low memory and high fs load? Steven has 384M
> > or RAM, which _will_ cause a lot of VM activity when doing a full kernel
> > BK clone + undo + pull, which is what his test script ends up doing...
>
> An easy way to verify for Steven is to give a quick spin to 2.6.5-aa5
> and see if it's slow too, that will rule out the anon-vma changes
> (for completeness: there's a minor race in 2.6.5-aa5 fixed in my current
> internal tree, I posted the fix to l-k separately, but you can ignore
> the fix for a simple test, it takes weeks to trigger anyways and you
> need threads to trigger it and I've never seen threaded version control
> systems so I doubt BK is threaded).
I'm getting the linux-2.6.5.tar.bz2 file (already got 2.6.5-aa2) via ppp,
while running the bk test script on 2.6.6-current and no PREEMPT.
That takes a while on 56k dialup. I'll leave all that running while
I go hiking.
>
> In general a "slowdown" cannot be related to anon-vma (unless it's a
> minor merging error), that's a black and white thing, it doesn't touch
> the vm heuristics and it will only speed the fast paths up plus it will
> save some tons of ram in the big systems. Pratically no change should be
> measurable on a small system (unless it uses an heavy amount of cows, in
> which case it will improve things, it should never hurt). As for being
> tested, it is very well tested on the small desktops too. Probably the
> only thing to double check is that there was no minor merging error that
> could have caused this.
Andrea, I did see a significant slowdown with Andy's test script (with DMA on)
on my timed test of 2.6.6-current vs 2.6.3.
>
> > It would be good to test going back to the kernel that saw the "immediate
> > problem", and try that version without CONFIG_PREEMPT.
>
> Agreed.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
Yep, later this evening, I hope.
Steven
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[not found] ` <200405122234.06902.elenstev@mesatop.com>
[not found] ` <15594C37-A509-11D8-A7EA-000A95CC3A8A@lanl.gov>
[not found] ` <20040513183316.GE17965@bitmover.com>
2004-05-14 4:32 ` 1352 NUL bytes at the end of a page? Steven Cole
[not found] ` <20040514144617.GE20197@work.bitmover.com>
[not found] ` <200405131723.15752.elenstev@mesatop.com>
2004-05-14 16:53 ` 1352 NUL bytes at the end of a page? (was Re: Assertion `s && s->tree' failed: The saga continues.) Andy Isaacson
2004-05-14 17:23 ` Steven Cole
2004-05-15 0:54 ` Steven Cole
2004-05-15 1:55 ` 1352 NUL bytes at the end of a page? Wayne Scott
2004-05-15 3:15 ` 1352 NUL bytes at the end of a page? (was Re: Assertion `s && s->tree' failed: The saga continues.) Lincoln Dale
2004-05-15 3:41 ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-15 5:39 ` Steven Cole
2004-05-16 1:23 ` Steven Cole
2004-05-16 2:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-16 3:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-16 4:31 ` Steven Cole
2004-05-16 4:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-16 5:22 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-05-16 15:28 ` Steven Cole [this message]
2004-05-16 17:49 ` Rutger Nijlunsing
2004-05-16 20:38 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-05-16 21:19 ` Steven Cole
2004-05-16 21:29 ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-16 22:11 ` Steven Cole
2004-05-16 23:53 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-05-17 2:12 ` Steven Cole
2004-05-17 8:21 ` R. J. Wysocki
2004-05-16 5:54 ` Steven Cole
2004-05-16 6:09 ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-16 6:24 ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-16 10:01 ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-16 13:49 ` Steven Cole
2004-05-18 1:47 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-05-16 3:20 ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-16 3:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-17 2:28 ` Larry McVoy
2004-05-17 2:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-17 3:36 ` Steven Cole
2004-05-17 5:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-17 6:11 ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-17 13:56 ` 1352 NUL bytes at the end of a page? Wayne Scott
2004-05-17 15:17 ` Theodore Ts'o
2004-05-17 15:20 ` Larry McVoy
2004-05-17 15:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-17 15:25 ` Larry McVoy
2004-05-17 15:37 ` viro
2004-05-17 17:30 ` Steven Cole
2004-05-17 17:40 ` viro
2004-05-17 17:39 ` Steven Cole
2004-05-17 19:06 ` viro
2004-05-17 15:40 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-05-17 15:53 ` Steven Cole
2004-05-17 16:23 ` Davide Libenzi
2004-05-17 16:28 ` Davide Libenzi
2004-05-17 14:07 ` 1352 NUL bytes at the end of a page? (was Re: Assertion `s && s->tree' failed: The saga continues.) Larry McVoy
2004-05-17 14:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-17 7:25 ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-17 7:46 ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-17 8:39 ` Vladimir Saveliev
2004-05-17 8:44 ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-17 11:58 ` Steven Cole
2004-05-17 14:05 ` Larry McVoy
2004-05-17 14:14 ` Larry McVoy
2004-05-17 14:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-17 14:52 ` Larry McVoy
2004-05-17 15:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-17 15:05 ` Larry McVoy
2004-05-17 15:23 ` Chris Mason
2004-05-17 15:49 ` Steven Cole
2004-05-17 20:24 ` Chris Mason
2004-05-17 21:08 ` Steven Cole
2004-05-17 21:29 ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-17 22:15 ` Steven Cole
2004-05-17 23:52 ` Steven Cole
2004-05-18 0:03 ` Chris Mason
2004-05-18 0:15 ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-18 0:13 ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-18 0:45 ` Steven Cole
2004-05-18 1:34 ` Larry McVoy
2004-05-18 1:42 ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-18 1:56 ` Steven Cole
2004-05-17 14:11 ` Larry McVoy
[not found] ` <200405172142.52780.elenstev@mesatop.com>
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.58.0405172056480.25502@ppc970.osdl.org>
[not found] ` <200405172319.38853.elenstev@mesatop.com>
2004-05-18 12:42 ` Chris Mason
2004-05-18 14:29 ` Steven Cole
2004-05-18 14:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-19 10:53 ` Steven Cole
2004-05-19 12:10 ` Chris Mason
2004-05-19 12:20 ` 1352 NUL bytes at the end of a page? Wayne Scott
2004-05-19 12:42 ` Nick Piggin
2004-05-19 13:28 ` Steven Cole
2004-05-19 13:36 ` Chris Mason
2004-05-19 13:59 ` Steven Cole
2004-05-19 14:03 ` Wayne Scott
2004-05-19 14:08 ` Chris Mason
2004-05-19 14:20 ` Steven Cole
2004-05-19 14:45 ` Steven Cole
2004-05-19 21:11 ` Non-regression for current kernel (was Re: 1352 NUL bytes at the end of a page?) Steven Cole
2004-05-17 15:35 1352 NUL bytes at the end of a page? (was Re: Assertion `s && s->tree' failed: The saga continues.) Albert Cahalan
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