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From: Steven Cole <elenstev@mesatop.com>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	adi@bitmover.com, scole@lanl.gov, support@bitmover.com,
	Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: 1352 NUL bytes at the end of a page? (was Re: Assertion `s && s->tree' failed: The saga continues.)
Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 09:28:21 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200405160928.22021.elenstev@mesatop.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040516052220.GU3044@dualathlon.random>

On Saturday 15 May 2004 11:22 pm, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> On Sat, May 15, 2004 at 09:52:50PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > On Sat, 15 May 2004, Steven Cole wrote:
> > > 
> > > OK, will do.  I ran the bk exerciser script for over an hour with 2.6.6-current
> > > and no CONFIG_PREEMPT and no errors.  The script only reported one
> > > iteration finished, while I got it to do 36 iterations over several hours earlier
> > > today (with a 2.6.3-4mdk vendor kernel)
> > 
> > Hmm.. Th ecurrent BK tree contains much of the anonvma stuff, so this 
> > might actually be a serious VM performance regression. That could 
> > effectively be hiding whatever problem you saw.
> > 
> > Andrea: have you tested under low memory and high fs load? Steven has 384M
> > or RAM, which _will_ cause a lot of VM activity when doing a full kernel
> > BK clone + undo + pull, which is what his test script ends up doing...
> 
> An easy way to verify for Steven is to give a quick spin to 2.6.5-aa5
> and see if it's slow too, that will rule out the anon-vma changes
> (for completeness: there's a minor race in 2.6.5-aa5 fixed in my current
> internal tree, I posted the fix to l-k separately, but you can ignore
> the fix for a simple test, it takes weeks to trigger anyways and you
> need threads to trigger it and I've never seen threaded version control
> systems so I doubt BK is threaded).

I'm getting the linux-2.6.5.tar.bz2 file (already got 2.6.5-aa2) via ppp,
while running the bk test script on 2.6.6-current and no PREEMPT.
That takes a while on 56k dialup.  I'll leave all that running while
I go hiking.

> 
> In general a "slowdown" cannot be related to anon-vma (unless it's a
> minor merging error), that's a black and white thing, it doesn't touch
> the vm heuristics and it will only speed the fast paths up plus it will
> save some tons of ram in the big systems. Pratically no change should be
> measurable on a small system (unless it uses an heavy amount of cows, in
> which case it will improve things, it should never hurt).  As for being
> tested, it is very well tested on the small desktops too. Probably the
> only thing to double check is that there was no minor merging error that
> could have caused this.

Andrea, I did see a significant slowdown with Andy's test script (with DMA on)
on my timed test of 2.6.6-current vs 2.6.3.

> 
> > It would be good to test going back to the kernel that saw the "immediate 
> > problem", and try that version without CONFIG_PREEMPT. 
> 
> Agreed.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 

Yep, later this evening, I hope.

Steven

  reply	other threads:[~2004-05-16 15:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <6616858C-A5AF-11D8-A7EA-000A95CC3A8A@lanl.gov>
     [not found] ` <200405122234.06902.elenstev@mesatop.com>
     [not found]   ` <15594C37-A509-11D8-A7EA-000A95CC3A8A@lanl.gov>
     [not found]     ` <20040513183316.GE17965@bitmover.com>
2004-05-14  4:32       ` 1352 NUL bytes at the end of a page? Steven Cole
     [not found]         ` <20040514144617.GE20197@work.bitmover.com>
     [not found]           ` <200405131723.15752.elenstev@mesatop.com>
2004-05-14 16:53             ` 1352 NUL bytes at the end of a page? (was Re: Assertion `s && s->tree' failed: The saga continues.) Andy Isaacson
2004-05-14 17:23               ` Steven Cole
2004-05-15  0:54               ` Steven Cole
2004-05-15  1:55                 ` 1352 NUL bytes at the end of a page? Wayne Scott
2004-05-15  3:15               ` 1352 NUL bytes at the end of a page? (was Re: Assertion `s && s->tree' failed: The saga continues.) Lincoln Dale
2004-05-15  3:41                 ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-15  5:39                   ` Steven Cole
2004-05-16  1:23                   ` Steven Cole
2004-05-16  2:18                     ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-16  3:44                       ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-16  4:31                         ` Steven Cole
2004-05-16  4:52                           ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-16  5:22                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-05-16 15:28                               ` Steven Cole [this message]
2004-05-16 17:49                                 ` Rutger Nijlunsing
2004-05-16 20:38                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-05-16 21:19                                   ` Steven Cole
2004-05-16 21:29                                     ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-16 22:11                                       ` Steven Cole
2004-05-16 23:53                                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-05-17  2:12                                           ` Steven Cole
2004-05-17  8:21                                         ` R. J. Wysocki
2004-05-16  5:54                             ` Steven Cole
2004-05-16  6:09                               ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-16  6:24                                 ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-16 10:01                           ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-16 13:49                             ` Steven Cole
2004-05-18  1:47                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-05-16  3:20                     ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-16  3:58                       ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-17  2:28                     ` Larry McVoy
2004-05-17  2:42                       ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-17  3:36                         ` Steven Cole
2004-05-17  5:17                           ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-17  6:11                             ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-17 13:56                               ` 1352 NUL bytes at the end of a page? Wayne Scott
2004-05-17 15:17                                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2004-05-17 15:20                                   ` Larry McVoy
2004-05-17 15:22                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-17 15:25                                     ` Larry McVoy
2004-05-17 15:37                                     ` viro
2004-05-17 17:30                                       ` Steven Cole
2004-05-17 17:40                                         ` viro
2004-05-17 17:39                                           ` Steven Cole
2004-05-17 19:06                                             ` viro
2004-05-17 15:40                                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-05-17 15:53                                       ` Steven Cole
2004-05-17 16:23                                   ` Davide Libenzi
2004-05-17 16:28                                     ` Davide Libenzi
2004-05-17 14:07                               ` 1352 NUL bytes at the end of a page? (was Re: Assertion `s && s->tree' failed: The saga continues.) Larry McVoy
2004-05-17 14:12                               ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-17  7:25                             ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-17  7:46                               ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-17  8:39                                 ` Vladimir Saveliev
2004-05-17  8:44                                   ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-17 11:58                                 ` Steven Cole
2004-05-17 14:05                               ` Larry McVoy
2004-05-17 14:14                             ` Larry McVoy
2004-05-17 14:32                               ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-17 14:52                                 ` Larry McVoy
2004-05-17 15:02                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-17 15:05                                     ` Larry McVoy
2004-05-17 15:23                                     ` Chris Mason
2004-05-17 15:49                                       ` Steven Cole
2004-05-17 20:24                                       ` Chris Mason
2004-05-17 21:08                                         ` Steven Cole
2004-05-17 21:29                                           ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-17 22:15                                             ` Steven Cole
2004-05-17 23:52                                             ` Steven Cole
2004-05-18  0:03                                               ` Chris Mason
2004-05-18  0:15                                                 ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-18  0:13                                               ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-18  0:45                                                 ` Steven Cole
2004-05-18  1:34                                                 ` Larry McVoy
2004-05-18  1:42                                                   ` Andrew Morton
2004-05-18  1:56                                                     ` Steven Cole
2004-05-17 14:11                         ` Larry McVoy
     [not found]         ` <200405172142.52780.elenstev@mesatop.com>
     [not found]           ` <Pine.LNX.4.58.0405172056480.25502@ppc970.osdl.org>
     [not found]             ` <200405172319.38853.elenstev@mesatop.com>
2004-05-18 12:42               ` Chris Mason
2004-05-18 14:29                 ` Steven Cole
2004-05-18 14:38               ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-19 10:53                 ` Steven Cole
2004-05-19 12:10                   ` Chris Mason
2004-05-19 12:20                     ` 1352 NUL bytes at the end of a page? Wayne Scott
2004-05-19 12:42                       ` Nick Piggin
2004-05-19 13:28                         ` Steven Cole
2004-05-19 13:36                           ` Chris Mason
2004-05-19 13:59                             ` Steven Cole
2004-05-19 14:03                               ` Wayne Scott
2004-05-19 14:08                               ` Chris Mason
2004-05-19 14:20                                 ` Steven Cole
2004-05-19 14:45                                 ` Steven Cole
2004-05-19 21:11                                 ` Non-regression for current kernel (was Re: 1352 NUL bytes at the end of a page?) Steven Cole
2004-05-17 15:35 1352 NUL bytes at the end of a page? (was Re: Assertion `s && s->tree' failed: The saga continues.) Albert Cahalan

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