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From: Wim Coekaerts <wim.coekaerts@oracle.com>
To: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
	Phy Prabab <phyprabab@yahoo.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 4g/4g for 2.6.6
Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 19:33:05 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040524023305.GC27372@ca-server1.us.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <40B15BB5.4040508@pobox.com>

> I think the switchover will happen fairly rapidly, since it is 
> positioned "the upgrade you get next time you buy a new computer", 
> similar to the current PATA->SATA switchover.

you're thinking what people do at home, the large business side doesn't
throw stuff out.. let me know when rhat replaces every desktop with
amd64, and ll buy you a drink if that's within the next few years ;)

> Since these CPUs run in 32-bit mode just fine, I bet you wind up with 
> people running Intel or AMD 64-bit CPUs long they abandon their 32-bit 
> OS.  I recall people often purchasing gigabit ethernet cards long before 
> they had a gigabit switch, simply because it was the volume technology 
> that was being at the time.  I think the same thing is going to happen 
> here, with AMD64 and EM64T.

yeah well what we can do (and do) is advice that hey 64bit, in some form
is really a much better environment to run servers with lots of gb on.
just takes time for products to mature on the market, even today you
can't get a lot of those boxes, not in bulk, and I am not talking about
a 1 or 2 way or a desktop with 2gb. don't confuse the systems where
4/4gb matters with your home box.

on the plus side, all the changes that went in recently seem to work
mighty well on 32gb, and I still have to see the first 64gb ia32 boxes,
m sure they are out there but I doubt that really matters any more. 

anyhow, the current VM seems to be capable of 32gb systems on ia32
happily without needing ugly 4/4. which is awesome. it's also
interesting  timing. anywys, 2.6 kicks butt quite decently :)

Wim


  reply	other threads:[~2004-05-24  2:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-05-23 19:43 4g/4g for 2.6.6 Phy Prabab
2004-05-23 20:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-23 20:51   ` Jeff Garzik
2004-05-24  1:55     ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-24  2:19       ` Jeff Garzik
2004-05-24  2:33         ` Wim Coekaerts [this message]
2004-05-31  9:51           ` Pavel Machek
2004-05-24  3:30         ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-06-01  5:52       ` Eric W. Biederman
2004-05-23 21:55   ` Phy Prabab
2004-05-24  7:05     ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-05-24  7:11       ` Phy Prabab
2004-05-24  7:24         ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-05-24  7:27           ` Phy Prabab
2004-05-24 12:01             ` Dave Jones
2004-05-24  2:39   ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-05-24  8:25   ` Ingo Molnar
2004-05-24 12:48     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-05-25 19:15       ` Rik van Riel
2004-05-25 19:41         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-05-25 19:50           ` Rik van Riel
2004-05-25 20:10             ` Rik van Riel
2004-05-25 21:15               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-05-26 10:33                 ` 4k stacks in 2.6 Ingo Molnar
2004-05-26 12:50                   ` Jörn Engel
2004-05-26 12:53                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-05-26 13:00                       ` Jörn Engel
2004-05-26 13:05                         ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-05-26 16:41                           ` Jörn Engel
2004-05-27 12:45                             ` Ingo Molnar
2004-05-27 13:59                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-05-27 14:03                                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-05-27 14:42                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-06-02 19:40                                     ` Bill Davidsen
2004-05-27 14:18                                 ` Brian Gerst
2004-05-27 14:50                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-05-27 14:55                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-27 15:39                                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-05-27 18:31                                       ` Guy Sotomayor
2004-05-27 19:26                                         ` Brian Gerst
2004-06-01  5:56                             ` 4k stacks in 2.6 [worst offenders] Jörn Engel
2004-06-01  6:02                               ` [RFC PATCH] explicitly mark recursion count Jörn Engel
2004-06-01 12:20                                 ` Pavel Machek
2004-06-01 13:27                                   ` Jörn Engel
2004-06-01 13:32                                     ` Pavel Machek
2004-06-01 13:37                                       ` Jörn Engel
2004-06-01 19:48                                         ` Horst von Brand
2004-06-01 19:29                                   ` Horst von Brand
2004-06-01 19:58                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2004-06-02 13:16                                       ` Jörn Engel
2004-06-02 14:15                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2004-06-02 14:27                                           ` Jörn Engel
2004-06-02 14:45                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2004-06-02 15:04                                               ` Jörn Engel
2004-06-02 15:12                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-06-02 15:27                                                   ` Jörn Engel
2004-06-02 15:52                                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2004-06-02 16:17                                                       ` Jörn Engel
2004-06-02 16:25                                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2004-06-02 17:17                                                           ` Jörn Engel
2004-06-02 17:32                                                             ` Greg KH
2004-06-02 17:46                                                               ` Jörn Engel
2004-06-02 14:35                                           ` Davide Libenzi
2004-06-02 18:20                                             ` Jörn Engel
2004-06-02 18:37                                               ` Davide Libenzi
2004-06-02 18:58                                                 ` Jörn Engel
2004-06-02 19:33                                                   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-06-02 19:37                                                   ` viro
2004-06-02 19:45                                                     ` Jörn Engel
2004-06-02 19:59                                                       ` viro
2004-06-03  6:55                                                         ` Jörn Engel
2004-06-02 19:55                                                     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-06-02 23:20                                                   ` Davide Libenzi
2004-06-03  7:29                                                     ` Jörn Engel
2004-06-01 12:39                                 ` viro
2004-06-01 13:26                                   ` Jörn Engel
2004-06-07 18:14                         ` 4k stacks in 2.6 Timothy Miller
2004-06-08  6:26                           ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-06-08  8:45                             ` Jörn Engel
2004-05-26 18:12                     ` David S. Miller
2004-05-26 19:02                       ` Matt Mackall
2004-05-26 19:25                         ` Dave Jones
2004-05-25 21:16               ` 4g/4g for 2.6.6 Andrew Morton
2004-05-25 21:48                 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-05-25 22:09                   ` David S. Miller
2004-05-25 22:20                     ` Ingo Molnar
2004-05-25 23:10                       ` David S. Miller
2004-05-25 21:04             ` Bill Davidsen
2004-05-24  1:33 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-05-24  1:38   ` Phy Prabab
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2004-05-24 10:27       ` Thomas Glanzmann
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-05-25 19:49 Manfred Spraul
2004-05-25 19:54 ` Ingo Molnar

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