From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
Arjan van de Ven <arjanv@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: 4k stacks in 2.6
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 12:33:03 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040526103303.GA7008@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040525211522.GF29378@dualathlon.random>
* Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de> wrote:
> On Tue, May 25, 2004 at 04:10:29PM -0400, Rik van Riel wrote:
> > Fragmentation causes fork trouble (gone with the 4k stacks)
>
> btw, the 4k stacks sounds not safe to me, most people only tested with
> 8k stacks so far, I wouldn't make that change in a production tree
> without an unstable cycle of testing in between. I'd rather risk a an
> allocation failure than a stack memory corruption.
4k stacks is a cool and useful feature and tons of effort that went into
making them as safe as possible. Sure, we couldnt fix up bin-only
modules, but all the kernel drivers are audited for stack footprint, and
many months of beta testing has gone into this as well. Anyway, if you
prefer you can turn on 8k stacks - especially if you tree has lots of
not-yet-upstream driver patches.
> x86-64 has per-irq stacks that allowed to reduce the stack size to 8k
> (which is very similar to 4k for an x86, but without per-irq stack
> it's too risky).
do you realize that the 4K stacks feature also adds a separate softirq
and a separate hardirq stack? So the maximum footprint is 4K+4K+4K, with
a clear and sane limit for each type of context, while the 2.4 kernel
has 6.5K for all 3 contexts combined. (Also, in 2.4 irq contexts pretty
much assumed that there's 2K of stack for them - leaving a de-facto 4K
stack for the process and softirq contexts.) So in fact there is more
space in 2.6 for all, and i dont really understand your fears.
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-05-26 10:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-05-23 19:43 4g/4g for 2.6.6 Phy Prabab
2004-05-23 20:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-23 20:51 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-05-24 1:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-24 2:19 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-05-24 2:33 ` Wim Coekaerts
2004-05-31 9:51 ` Pavel Machek
2004-05-24 3:30 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-06-01 5:52 ` Eric W. Biederman
2004-05-23 21:55 ` Phy Prabab
2004-05-24 7:05 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-05-24 7:11 ` Phy Prabab
2004-05-24 7:24 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-05-24 7:27 ` Phy Prabab
2004-05-24 12:01 ` Dave Jones
2004-05-24 2:39 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-05-24 8:25 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-05-24 12:48 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-05-25 19:15 ` Rik van Riel
2004-05-25 19:41 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-05-25 19:50 ` Rik van Riel
2004-05-25 20:10 ` Rik van Riel
2004-05-25 21:15 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-05-26 10:33 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2004-05-26 12:50 ` 4k stacks in 2.6 Jörn Engel
2004-05-26 12:53 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-05-26 13:00 ` Jörn Engel
2004-05-26 13:05 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-05-26 16:41 ` Jörn Engel
2004-05-27 12:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-05-27 13:59 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-05-27 14:03 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-05-27 14:42 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-06-02 19:40 ` Bill Davidsen
2004-05-27 14:18 ` Brian Gerst
2004-05-27 14:50 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-05-27 14:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-05-27 15:39 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-05-27 18:31 ` Guy Sotomayor
2004-05-27 19:26 ` Brian Gerst
2004-06-01 5:56 ` 4k stacks in 2.6 [worst offenders] Jörn Engel
2004-06-01 6:02 ` [RFC PATCH] explicitly mark recursion count Jörn Engel
2004-06-01 12:20 ` Pavel Machek
2004-06-01 13:27 ` Jörn Engel
2004-06-01 13:32 ` Pavel Machek
2004-06-01 13:37 ` Jörn Engel
2004-06-01 19:48 ` Horst von Brand
2004-06-01 19:29 ` Horst von Brand
2004-06-01 19:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-06-02 13:16 ` Jörn Engel
2004-06-02 14:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-06-02 14:27 ` Jörn Engel
2004-06-02 14:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-06-02 15:04 ` Jörn Engel
2004-06-02 15:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-06-02 15:27 ` Jörn Engel
2004-06-02 15:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-06-02 16:17 ` Jörn Engel
2004-06-02 16:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-06-02 17:17 ` Jörn Engel
2004-06-02 17:32 ` Greg KH
2004-06-02 17:46 ` Jörn Engel
2004-06-02 14:35 ` Davide Libenzi
2004-06-02 18:20 ` Jörn Engel
2004-06-02 18:37 ` Davide Libenzi
2004-06-02 18:58 ` Jörn Engel
2004-06-02 19:33 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-06-02 19:37 ` viro
2004-06-02 19:45 ` Jörn Engel
2004-06-02 19:59 ` viro
2004-06-03 6:55 ` Jörn Engel
2004-06-02 19:55 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-06-02 23:20 ` Davide Libenzi
2004-06-03 7:29 ` Jörn Engel
2004-06-01 12:39 ` viro
2004-06-01 13:26 ` Jörn Engel
2004-06-07 18:14 ` 4k stacks in 2.6 Timothy Miller
2004-06-08 6:26 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-06-08 8:45 ` Jörn Engel
2004-05-26 18:12 ` David S. Miller
2004-05-26 19:02 ` Matt Mackall
2004-05-26 19:25 ` Dave Jones
2004-05-25 21:16 ` 4g/4g for 2.6.6 Andrew Morton
2004-05-25 21:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-05-25 22:09 ` David S. Miller
2004-05-25 22:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-05-25 23:10 ` David S. Miller
2004-05-25 21:04 ` Bill Davidsen
2004-05-24 1:33 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-05-24 1:38 ` Phy Prabab
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2004-05-26 13:57 ` 4k stacks in 2.6 Andi Kleen
2004-05-26 18:17 ` hch
2004-05-26 18:24 ` Andi Kleen
2004-05-26 20:39 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
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[not found] ` <20baw-1Lz-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
2004-05-26 19:32 ` Andi Kleen
2004-05-27 11:27 ` Jörn Engel
2004-05-27 13:49 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-05-27 14:15 ` Jörn Engel
2004-05-27 14:49 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-05-27 14:59 ` Jörn Engel
2004-05-27 15:08 ` Keith Owens
2004-05-27 15:21 ` Jörn Engel
2004-05-27 15:34 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-05-27 15:46 ` Jörn Engel
2004-06-01 5:25 ` Jörn Engel
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2004-05-26 15:17 Albert Cahalan
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