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From: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>
To: Mikael Pettersson <mikpe@csd.uu.se>
Cc: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH][2.6.6-rc3] gcc-3.4.0 fixes
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2004 08:09:13 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040601150913.GU2093@holomorphy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <16572.38987.239160.819836@alkaid.it.uu.se>

On Tue, Jun 01, 2004 at 04:52:59PM +0200, Mikael Pettersson wrote:
> You're assuming pointers have uniform representation.
> C makes no such guarantees, and machines _have_ had
> different types of representations in the past.
> Some not-so-obsolete 64-bit machines in effect use fat
> representations for pointers to functions (descriptors),
> but they usually cheat and use pointers to the descriptors
> instead. However, a C implementation could legally
> represent a function pointer as a 128-bit value, while
> data pointers remain 64 bits.

IIRC for all types foo, sizeof(foo *) <= sizeof(void *), no?
If so, 128-bit function pointers implies >= 128-bit void pointers.


On Tue, Jun 01, 2004 at 04:52:59PM +0200, Mikael Pettersson wrote:
> A cast fundamentally involves an assignment conversion,
> a copy to a temporary, and it yields an rvalue.
> Even if we allow its use as an lvalue, the semantics
> would still be to assign the copy not the original.
> So cast-as-lvalue as gcc implemented it changed two
> major aspects of the semantics. Call me conservative
> if you like, but that's simply not C any more.

Oh, yeah, lvalue casting is degenerate filth.


-- wli

  reply	other threads:[~2004-06-01 15:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-04-29 21:46 [PATCH][2.6.6-rc3] gcc-3.4.0 fixes Mikael Pettersson
2004-05-17  0:58 ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-06-01 14:52   ` Mikael Pettersson
2004-06-01 15:09     ` William Lee Irwin III [this message]
2004-06-01 15:35       ` Mikael Pettersson
2004-06-01 15:38       ` Andreas Schwab
2004-06-01 17:09     ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-06-01 17:14     ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-06-01 21:47       ` Mikael Pettersson
2004-06-01 17:27     ` Linus Torvalds
2004-06-01 19:34       ` Chris Wedgwood
2004-07-16  4:28       ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found] <1PX8S-5z2-23@gated-at.bofh.it>
2004-04-29  9:30 ` Ihar 'Philips' Filipau
2004-04-29 20:46   ` Paul Wagland
2004-04-29 20:54   ` Denis Vlasenko
2004-04-29 21:35     ` Ihar 'Philips' Filipau
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-04-28 13:07 Mikael Pettersson

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